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Agree and I used to snicker a bit when I saw posts worrying about voter

turn out being so low when comparing Dems to past primaries vs. the GOP. Like you, I thought it was apples to oranges, because one is a hotly contested race vs. one that Bernie has managed to keep alive more than anyone imagined.

But when you start considering Trump's ability to get voters out, Hillary's complete inability to excite voters that aren't already locks for her, and the Feel the Berners that could very well turn to Trump, or more likely just stay home rather than vote for Hillary, and it becomes a much more concerning picture for the Dems.

There is one other hugh factor that should be considered however. Barrack has stayed mostly silent to this point. When he starts campaigning hard for his 3rd term via Hillary, and he will, he may be able to drive up the GOTV excitement she simply can't.

And of course, whatever the FBI may say between now and November.

(In response to this post by southdenverhoo)

Posted: 03/16/2016 at 5:27PM

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