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Meanwhile, ponder what the words “during his time in office” mean.

Give this some thought as well in terms of how the president is required to classify records…

“Section 2203(a) of the PRA directs the President, not the Archivist, to take: all such steps as may be necessary to assure that the activities, deliberations, decisions, and policies that reflect the performance of his constitutional, statutory or other official or ceremonial duties are adequately documented, ***and that such records are maintained as PRESIDENTIAL [emphasis added] records*** pursuant to the requirements of this section 44 U.S.C. § 2203(a).”

No that any of this is relevant in the least . Trump is charged under the Espionage Act.

(In response to this post by Los Angeles Hoo)

Posted: 01/17/2024 at 5:07PM

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