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Actually, I wouldn't be certain that he did. MAYBE he intended to, I don't

know, but I think it's more likely that Trump took the documents saying "These are mine. Screw what the law and/or standards say."

Or possibly even that they were just loaded as a jumbled mess in a messy transition, but then he had to be an ass and refuse to give them back in anything approaching a timely manner or with cooperation.

It's quite possible that he took them to sell them. I don't put anything past this guy. But more likely some combo of sloppiness and arrogance.

(In response to this post by aint2Hokie4me)

Posted: 01/17/2024 at 11:58AM

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