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I'd take that with an enormous grain of salt. Personally, I think he's -- Seattle .Hoo 04/25/2016 11:34AM Jack sized? ** -- Shenhoo 04/25/2016 10:01PM He said might be better. ** -- ESHooFan 04/25/2016 09:42AM Even that is remarkable. Think they'll spend a $billion to elect either -- WaxHoo 04/25/2016 10:55AM **** -- WaxHoo 04/25/2016 10:56AM No. And a lot of other Republican money will sit this cluster out. ** -- Shenhoo 04/25/2016 11:00AM Umpossible ** -- FfxStationHokie 04/25/2016 09:21AM The Republican candidates are such a mess that..... -- Shenhoo 04/25/2016 09:12AM I'd bet their plan is to push Paul Ryan very, very hard in 2020. ** -- VAGentleman05 04/25/2016 10:12AM No doubt. Of course the last plan was to capitalize on obama in 2008 ** -- KCHoo 04/25/2016 12:42PM And, while I'm sure he has grown substantially, Ryan didn't exactly look -- WahooRQ 04/26/2016 10:37AM Also another indication of how stupid the D's Koch bros hate campaign is ** -- HokieDan95 04/24/2016 7:43PM They are free market libertarians. How much does that align w/the ... -- HowieT3 04/24/2016 10:02PM And they know she can be bought... ** -- cvilleHOOrat 04/25/2016 08:34AM Or she won't completely fuck it up. No one is profiting from -- KCHoo 04/25/2016 09:17AM Exactly. Won't do anything drastic, stupid, or revolutionary. Will have -- WahooRQ 04/25/2016 10:26AM Re: the hostile house. Of course the R's will continue to ru(i)n the -- Shenhoo 04/25/2016 10:57AM A middling manager of our continuing decline...oh well ** -- Tuckahokie 04/25/2016 10:38AM I think it's bullshit to say America is in decline. We have some problems -- Seattle .Hoo 04/25/2016 1:41PM Will most American kids live better than their parents? ** -- Tuckahokie 04/25/2016 3:03PM Depends on what you mean by that and who you are talking about. -- WahooRQ 04/26/2016 10:33AM You tell me, Amazing Kreskin. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 04/25/2016 4:57PM $210 trillion unfunded liablities? How we gonna fix that?** -- WaxHoo 04/25/2016 1:43PM That's a silly statistic meant to scare people. It doesn't consider the -- BocaHoo91 04/25/2016 3:05PM Pick any of these numbers. lowest to highest. Do you actually see any -- WaxHoo 04/25/2016 8:50PM Not currently... certainly neither side is coming to the table with -- BocaHoo91 04/25/2016 9:11PM That's not actual debt; it is a projected future promise. There are ways to -- Seattle .Hoo 04/25/2016 2:54PM Where's the politcal will to start fixing it? I don't see it. ** -- WaxHoo 04/25/2016 8:53PM If you extrapolate to the year 2525, it's even more than that! -- 111Balz 04/25/2016 1:49PM $210T is wrt people who are alive today ** -- WaxHoo 04/25/2016 2:45PM Well that is anywhere from 10 to 3 times any estimate -- 111Balz 04/25/2016 5:23PM Committee For Responsible Federal Budget Realistic Baseline (link) -- WaxHoo 04/26/2016 08:28AM But the amount you quoted was not from their realistic forecast -- 111Balz 04/26/2016 09:40AM True; but given our historic fiscal "performance" worst case isn't -- WaxHoo 04/26/2016 09:48AM Yes it is BS, just like the belief that the pyramids were built to store -- KCHoo 04/26/2016 11:51AM So CBO is FOS. Got it. ** -- WaxHoo 04/26/2016 2:42PM I found an article that seems to explain where the $210 trillion -- BocaHoo91 04/25/2016 7:22PM Thanks Boca. So here's a question for the board: -- 111Balz 04/25/2016 9:28PM Just check with CBO. It's their number** -- WaxHoo 04/25/2016 7:20PM David Walker's number is $65 trillion. Also wrong, but at least -- BocaHoo91 04/25/2016 7:26PM OK, lets use Walker's number. How are we going to fix that? ** -- WaxHoo 04/25/2016 7:42PM Tweaks to social security... that one's easy. -- BocaHoo91 04/25/2016 8:16PM The biggest problem with medicare--and I agree with your point-- -- Shenhoo 04/26/2016 09:06AM We're going to have to define what level of care everyone has a "right" to. -- BocaHoo91 04/26/2016 09:45AM I didn't know you liked death panels. -- Shenhoo 04/26/2016 09:56AM But death panels really aren't in the hands of private insurers for the -- BocaHoo91 04/26/2016 10:15AM Yeah? Wait till your wife gets cancer like mine did, and the hospital staff -- Shenhoo 04/26/2016 10:30AM I'm sorry for your loss and no doubt this is a very tough issue that -- BocaHoo91 04/26/2016 1:23PM Yeah. I'm sure. And honestly, I wasn't deeply angered by it. -- Shenhoo 04/26/2016 2:18PM When my mom was dying, I walked out of a similar meeting and once my -- southdenverhoo 04/27/2016 5:41PM I think you are going to have to have people buy catastrophic insurance -- KCHoo 04/26/2016 11:48AM Yep. It's the CBO ** -- WaxHoo 04/25/2016 7:40PM $700K per person alive? NPV? What's the math on that? ** -- BocaHoo91 04/25/2016 4:29PM CBO (link) -- WaxHoo 04/25/2016 7:30PM That's just dumb. If I take my mortgage, my kids private school tuition, -- BocaHoo91 04/25/2016 10:04PM CFRB Realistic Baseline (link) -- WaxHoo 04/26/2016 08:30AM I missed the part where they talk about $210 trillion in -- BocaHoo91 04/26/2016 09:31AM Up-vote if I could ... ** -- WaxHoo 04/25/2016 11:47AM You pretty much make my point. The D's go in front of the camera and pitch -- HokieDan95 04/24/2016 10:13PM LOL! Yeah that's what's going on. you got it; the Koch's thank you -- 111Balz 04/25/2016 07:17AM Eh no..you missed the point ** -- HokieDan95 04/25/2016 09:29AM Don't flatter yourself; you made no valid point ** -- 111Balz 04/25/2016 11:08AM There was a point to your "pitch a fit" rant? ** -- VAGentleman05 04/25/2016 09:45AM You actually consider that sentence a rant? ** -- HokieDan95 04/25/2016 10:30AM Hard to tell. What did you edit out of it this time? -- VAGentleman05 04/25/2016 11:43AM Did you look at the edit time? ** -- HokieDan95 04/25/2016 12:14PM Billions of dollars, BTW. ** -- HowieT3 04/24/2016 11:10PM Link? ** -- PhillyHoo 04/25/2016 07:36AM Not stupid at all. -- DanTheFan 04/24/2016 9:53PM Mehlook at the damage done in Baltimore, Detroit, Chicago -- HokieDan95 04/24/2016 10:01PM LMAO!! KS, LA, AZ, WI, NC Shall we go on?** -- WaxHoo 04/25/2016 10:46AM OMG!! LOL!! LOL!!...my real question is should the big donors to the -- HokieDan95 04/25/2016 12:37PM What KCHoo sez next below, in every respect. My point is for every -- WaxHoo 04/25/2016 1:42PM I think the states he listed were a lot harder to break than those cities. -- KCHoo 04/25/2016 12:41PM Not only the cities but Maryland and Illinois are long time blue , not sure -- HokieDan95 04/25/2016 12:48PM LOL, what exactly do you think is wrong with Maryland? -- WahooRQ 04/25/2016 1:01PM I think it's fair to say that the federal govt -- HoosGuy 04/26/2016 06:59AM Obama's EPA has done no favors for WV's economy ** -- Tuckahokie 04/25/2016 1:20PM & the Surgeon General did NC no favor re: BigTobacco. Likewise the Ag Dept -- WaxHoo 04/25/2016 2:37PM Except the farmers could use that same land to grow other crops...what is -- Tuckahokie 04/25/2016 3:05PM Legalize weed, A few years back I read that weed was Kentucky third most -- Shenhoo 04/25/2016 5:19PM Avery Markham was ahead of the curve on that one. ** -- WahooRQ 04/25/2016 5:36PM **** -- WaxHoo 04/25/2016 2:39PM Short run, no. Long run, yes -- DanTheFan 04/25/2016 1:56PM Eh try reading more into the thread, we are talking about Baltimore, ** -- HokieDan95 04/25/2016 1:14PM Or KC's point went flying straight over your head. ** -- WahooRQ 04/25/2016 1:19PM Yeah...but it also has a bunch of Terps ** -- Tuckahokie 04/25/2016 1:11PM "crabcakes and football!!" ** -- HokieDan95 04/25/2016 1:19PM Fair point but Terp basketball season alone creates thousands of jobs... -- WahooRQ 04/25/2016 1:15PM "think"? ** -- 111Balz 04/25/2016 1:08PM That's a weak argument and hard to take seriously. -- DanTheFan 04/25/2016 09:19AM By 'union-busting" you mean not forcing people to pay dues to an -- JMHoo 04/25/2016 09:52AM It appears that the Walker model got a beat down nationally. ** -- Shenhoo 04/25/2016 09:14AM Not even close. he was both encouraging Bernie supprters -- 111Balz 04/24/2016 8:28PM Indication of how important an establishment candidate is to these people ** -- dajoka004 04/24/2016 4:47PM They don't want anybody who might disrupt their trickle up economics ** -- hokeyhokie 04/24/2016 5:48PM They can deal with four years of a centrist who will have to work with a -- WahooRQ 04/24/2016 11:19PM Centrist? That's a joke righ? ** -- AlexHoo 04/25/2016 08:35AM In the alternate version of reality you call home, I'm sure it is. ** -- WahooRQ 04/25/2016 09:29AM Not from the Kochs' point of view obviously. -- Shenhoo 04/25/2016 09:13AM HRC is closer to the middle than anybody else in the race (on either side) ** -- VAGentleman05 04/25/2016 09:04AM She is THE status quo candidate, for better or worse. ** -- southdenverhoo 04/25/2016 09:47AM The status quo being the Obama administration (which is an important part -- WahooRQ 04/25/2016 10:28AM Right but by "status quo" I intended to encompass the entire current -- southdenverhoo 04/25/2016 7:50PM ...and the "Quid Pro Ho" :>o ** -- Tuckahokie 04/25/2016 09:58AM If, God forbid, Trump gets the nomination, the Trumpies will be taught... -- PhillyHoo 04/25/2016 07:38AM