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The status quo being the Obama administration (which is an important part
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Koch brothers says Clinton better than Trump or Cruz
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Quaker
04/24/2016 3:09PM
I'd take that with an enormous grain of salt. Personally, I think he's
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Seattle .Hoo
04/25/2016 11:34AM
Jack sized? **
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Shenhoo
04/25/2016 10:01PM
He said might be better. **
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ESHooFan
04/25/2016 09:42AM
Even that is remarkable. Think they'll spend a $billion to elect either
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WaxHoo
04/25/2016 10:55AM
****
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WaxHoo
04/25/2016 10:56AM
No. And a lot of other Republican money will sit this cluster out. **
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Shenhoo
04/25/2016 11:00AM
Umpossible **
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FfxStationHokie
04/25/2016 09:21AM
The Republican candidates are such a mess that.....
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Shenhoo
04/25/2016 09:12AM
I'd bet their plan is to push Paul Ryan very, very hard in 2020. **
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VAGentleman05
04/25/2016 10:12AM
No doubt. Of course the last plan was to capitalize on obama in 2008 **
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KCHoo
04/25/2016 12:42PM
And, while I'm sure he has grown substantially, Ryan didn't exactly look
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WahooRQ
04/26/2016 10:37AM
Also another indication of how stupid the D's Koch bros hate campaign is **
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HokieDan95
04/24/2016 7:43PM
They are free market libertarians. How much does that align w/the ...
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HowieT3
04/24/2016 10:02PM
And they know she can be bought... **
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cvilleHOOrat
04/25/2016 08:34AM
Or she won't completely fuck it up. No one is profiting from
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KCHoo
04/25/2016 09:17AM
Exactly. Won't do anything drastic, stupid, or revolutionary. Will have
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WahooRQ
04/25/2016 10:26AM
Re: the hostile house. Of course the R's will continue to ru(i)n the
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Shenhoo
04/25/2016 10:57AM
A middling manager of our continuing decline...oh well **
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Tuckahokie
04/25/2016 10:38AM
I think it's bullshit to say America is in decline. We have some problems
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Seattle .Hoo
04/25/2016 1:41PM
Will most American kids live better than their parents? **
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Tuckahokie
04/25/2016 3:03PM
Depends on what you mean by that and who you are talking about.
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WahooRQ
04/26/2016 10:33AM
You tell me, Amazing Kreskin. **
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Seattle .Hoo
04/25/2016 4:57PM
$210 trillion unfunded liablities? How we gonna fix that?**
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WaxHoo
04/25/2016 1:43PM
That's a silly statistic meant to scare people. It doesn't consider the
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BocaHoo91
04/25/2016 3:05PM
Pick any of these numbers. lowest to highest. Do you actually see any
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WaxHoo
04/25/2016 8:50PM
Not currently... certainly neither side is coming to the table with
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BocaHoo91
04/25/2016 9:11PM
That's not actual debt; it is a projected future promise. There are ways to
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Seattle .Hoo
04/25/2016 2:54PM
Where's the politcal will to start fixing it? I don't see it. **
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WaxHoo
04/25/2016 8:53PM
If you extrapolate to the year 2525, it's even more than that!
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111Balz
04/25/2016 1:49PM
$210T is wrt people who are alive today **
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WaxHoo
04/25/2016 2:45PM
Well that is anywhere from 10 to 3 times any estimate
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111Balz
04/25/2016 5:23PM
Committee For Responsible Federal Budget Realistic Baseline (link)
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WaxHoo
04/26/2016 08:28AM
But the amount you quoted was not from their realistic forecast
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111Balz
04/26/2016 09:40AM
True; but given our historic fiscal "performance" worst case isn't
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WaxHoo
04/26/2016 09:48AM
Yes it is BS, just like the belief that the pyramids were built to store
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KCHoo
04/26/2016 11:51AM
So CBO is FOS. Got it. **
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WaxHoo
04/26/2016 2:42PM
I found an article that seems to explain where the $210 trillion
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BocaHoo91
04/25/2016 7:22PM
Thanks Boca. So here's a question for the board:
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111Balz
04/25/2016 9:28PM
Just check with CBO. It's their number**
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WaxHoo
04/25/2016 7:20PM
David Walker's number is $65 trillion. Also wrong, but at least
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BocaHoo91
04/25/2016 7:26PM
OK, lets use Walker's number. How are we going to fix that? **
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WaxHoo
04/25/2016 7:42PM
Tweaks to social security... that one's easy.
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BocaHoo91
04/25/2016 8:16PM
The biggest problem with medicare--and I agree with your point--
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Shenhoo
04/26/2016 09:06AM
We're going to have to define what level of care everyone has a "right" to.
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BocaHoo91
04/26/2016 09:45AM
I didn't know you liked death panels.
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Shenhoo
04/26/2016 09:56AM
But death panels really aren't in the hands of private insurers for the
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BocaHoo91
04/26/2016 10:15AM
Yeah? Wait till your wife gets cancer like mine did, and the hospital staff
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Shenhoo
04/26/2016 10:30AM
I'm sorry for your loss and no doubt this is a very tough issue that
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BocaHoo91
04/26/2016 1:23PM
Yeah. I'm sure. And honestly, I wasn't deeply angered by it.
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Shenhoo
04/26/2016 2:18PM
When my mom was dying, I walked out of a similar meeting and once my
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southdenverhoo
04/27/2016 5:41PM
I think you are going to have to have people buy catastrophic insurance
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KCHoo
04/26/2016 11:48AM
Yep. It's the CBO **
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WaxHoo
04/25/2016 7:40PM
$700K per person alive? NPV? What's the math on that? **
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BocaHoo91
04/25/2016 4:29PM
CBO (link)
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WaxHoo
04/25/2016 7:30PM
That's just dumb. If I take my mortgage, my kids private school tuition,
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BocaHoo91
04/25/2016 10:04PM
CFRB Realistic Baseline (link)
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WaxHoo
04/26/2016 08:30AM
I missed the part where they talk about $210 trillion in
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BocaHoo91
04/26/2016 09:31AM
Up-vote if I could ... **
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WaxHoo
04/25/2016 11:47AM
You pretty much make my point. The D's go in front of the camera and pitch
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HokieDan95
04/24/2016 10:13PM
LOL! Yeah that's what's going on. you got it; the Koch's thank you
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111Balz
04/25/2016 07:17AM
Eh no..you missed the point **
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HokieDan95
04/25/2016 09:29AM
Don't flatter yourself; you made no valid point **
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111Balz
04/25/2016 11:08AM
There was a point to your "pitch a fit" rant? **
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VAGentleman05
04/25/2016 09:45AM
You actually consider that sentence a rant? **
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HokieDan95
04/25/2016 10:30AM
Hard to tell. What did you edit out of it this time?
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VAGentleman05
04/25/2016 11:43AM
Did you look at the edit time? **
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HokieDan95
04/25/2016 12:14PM
Billions of dollars, BTW. **
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HowieT3
04/24/2016 11:10PM
Link? **
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PhillyHoo
04/25/2016 07:36AM
Not stupid at all.
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DanTheFan
04/24/2016 9:53PM
Mehlook at the damage done in Baltimore, Detroit, Chicago
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HokieDan95
04/24/2016 10:01PM
LMAO!! KS, LA, AZ, WI, NC Shall we go on?**
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WaxHoo
04/25/2016 10:46AM
OMG!! LOL!! LOL!!...my real question is should the big donors to the
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HokieDan95
04/25/2016 12:37PM
What KCHoo sez next below, in every respect. My point is for every
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WaxHoo
04/25/2016 1:42PM
I think the states he listed were a lot harder to break than those cities.
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KCHoo
04/25/2016 12:41PM
Not only the cities but Maryland and Illinois are long time blue , not sure
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HokieDan95
04/25/2016 12:48PM
LOL, what exactly do you think is wrong with Maryland?
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WahooRQ
04/25/2016 1:01PM
I think it's fair to say that the federal govt
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HoosGuy
04/26/2016 06:59AM
Obama's EPA has done no favors for WV's economy **
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Tuckahokie
04/25/2016 1:20PM
& the Surgeon General did NC no favor re: BigTobacco. Likewise the Ag Dept
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WaxHoo
04/25/2016 2:37PM
Except the farmers could use that same land to grow other crops...what is
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Tuckahokie
04/25/2016 3:05PM
Legalize weed, A few years back I read that weed was Kentucky third most
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Shenhoo
04/25/2016 5:19PM
Avery Markham was ahead of the curve on that one. **
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WahooRQ
04/25/2016 5:36PM
****
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WaxHoo
04/25/2016 2:39PM
Short run, no. Long run, yes
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DanTheFan
04/25/2016 1:56PM
Eh try reading more into the thread, we are talking about Baltimore, **
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HokieDan95
04/25/2016 1:14PM
Or KC's point went flying straight over your head. **
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WahooRQ
04/25/2016 1:19PM
Yeah...but it also has a bunch of Terps **
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Tuckahokie
04/25/2016 1:11PM
"crabcakes and football!!" **
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HokieDan95
04/25/2016 1:19PM
Fair point but Terp basketball season alone creates thousands of jobs...
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WahooRQ
04/25/2016 1:15PM
"think"? **
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111Balz
04/25/2016 1:08PM
That's a weak argument and hard to take seriously.
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DanTheFan
04/25/2016 09:19AM
By 'union-busting" you mean not forcing people to pay dues to an
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JMHoo
04/25/2016 09:52AM
It appears that the Walker model got a beat down nationally. **
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Shenhoo
04/25/2016 09:14AM
Not even close. he was both encouraging Bernie supprters
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111Balz
04/24/2016 8:28PM
Indication of how important an establishment candidate is to these people **
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dajoka004
04/24/2016 4:47PM
They don't want anybody who might disrupt their trickle up economics **
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hokeyhokie
04/24/2016 5:48PM
They can deal with four years of a centrist who will have to work with a
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WahooRQ
04/24/2016 11:19PM
Centrist? That's a joke righ? **
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AlexHoo
04/25/2016 08:35AM
In the alternate version of reality you call home, I'm sure it is. **
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WahooRQ
04/25/2016 09:29AM
Not from the Kochs' point of view obviously.
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Shenhoo
04/25/2016 09:13AM
HRC is closer to the middle than anybody else in the race (on either side) **
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VAGentleman05
04/25/2016 09:04AM
She is THE status quo candidate, for better or worse. **
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southdenverhoo
04/25/2016 09:47AM
The status quo being the Obama administration (which is an important part
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WahooRQ
04/25/2016 10:28AM
Right but by "status quo" I intended to encompass the entire current
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southdenverhoo
04/25/2016 7:50PM
...and the "Quid Pro Ho" :>o **
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Tuckahokie
04/25/2016 09:58AM
If, God forbid, Trump gets the nomination, the Trumpies will be taught...
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PhillyHoo
04/25/2016 07:38AM
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