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HokieDan95
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You pretty much make my point. The D's go in front of the camera and pitch
childish fits to demonize them for the mere act of disagreeing with them and backing it up with money.
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Quaker
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I'd take that with an enormous grain of salt. Personally, I think he's
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Jack sized? **
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Shenhoo
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He said might be better. **
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04/25/2016 09:42AM
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04/25/2016 10:55AM
****
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04/25/2016 10:56AM
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Shenhoo
04/25/2016 11:00AM
Umpossible **
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FfxStationHokie
04/25/2016 09:21AM
The Republican candidates are such a mess that.....
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04/25/2016 09:12AM
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04/25/2016 10:12AM
No doubt. Of course the last plan was to capitalize on obama in 2008 **
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KCHoo
04/25/2016 12:42PM
And, while I'm sure he has grown substantially, Ryan didn't exactly look
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WahooRQ
04/26/2016 10:37AM
Also another indication of how stupid the D's Koch bros hate campaign is **
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HokieDan95
04/24/2016 7:43PM
They are free market libertarians. How much does that align w/the ...
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HowieT3
04/24/2016 10:02PM
And they know she can be bought... **
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cvilleHOOrat
04/25/2016 08:34AM
Or she won't completely fuck it up. No one is profiting from
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KCHoo
04/25/2016 09:17AM
Exactly. Won't do anything drastic, stupid, or revolutionary. Will have
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WahooRQ
04/25/2016 10:26AM
Re: the hostile house. Of course the R's will continue to ru(i)n the
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Shenhoo
04/25/2016 10:57AM
A middling manager of our continuing decline...oh well **
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Tuckahokie
04/25/2016 10:38AM
I think it's bullshit to say America is in decline. We have some problems
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Seattle .Hoo
04/25/2016 1:41PM
Will most American kids live better than their parents? **
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Tuckahokie
04/25/2016 3:03PM
Depends on what you mean by that and who you are talking about.
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WahooRQ
04/26/2016 10:33AM
You tell me, Amazing Kreskin. **
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Seattle .Hoo
04/25/2016 4:57PM
$210 trillion unfunded liablities? How we gonna fix that?**
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WaxHoo
04/25/2016 1:43PM
That's a silly statistic meant to scare people. It doesn't consider the
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BocaHoo91
04/25/2016 3:05PM
Pick any of these numbers. lowest to highest. Do you actually see any
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WaxHoo
04/25/2016 8:50PM
Not currently... certainly neither side is coming to the table with
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BocaHoo91
04/25/2016 9:11PM
That's not actual debt; it is a projected future promise. There are ways to
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Seattle .Hoo
04/25/2016 2:54PM
Where's the politcal will to start fixing it? I don't see it. **
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WaxHoo
04/25/2016 8:53PM
If you extrapolate to the year 2525, it's even more than that!
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111Balz
04/25/2016 1:49PM
$210T is wrt people who are alive today **
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WaxHoo
04/25/2016 2:45PM
Well that is anywhere from 10 to 3 times any estimate
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111Balz
04/25/2016 5:23PM
Committee For Responsible Federal Budget Realistic Baseline (link)
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WaxHoo
04/26/2016 08:28AM
But the amount you quoted was not from their realistic forecast
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111Balz
04/26/2016 09:40AM
True; but given our historic fiscal "performance" worst case isn't
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WaxHoo
04/26/2016 09:48AM
Yes it is BS, just like the belief that the pyramids were built to store
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KCHoo
04/26/2016 11:51AM
So CBO is FOS. Got it. **
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WaxHoo
04/26/2016 2:42PM
I found an article that seems to explain where the $210 trillion
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BocaHoo91
04/25/2016 7:22PM
Thanks Boca. So here's a question for the board:
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111Balz
04/25/2016 9:28PM
Just check with CBO. It's their number**
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WaxHoo
04/25/2016 7:20PM
David Walker's number is $65 trillion. Also wrong, but at least
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BocaHoo91
04/25/2016 7:26PM
OK, lets use Walker's number. How are we going to fix that? **
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WaxHoo
04/25/2016 7:42PM
Tweaks to social security... that one's easy.
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BocaHoo91
04/25/2016 8:16PM
The biggest problem with medicare--and I agree with your point--
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Shenhoo
04/26/2016 09:06AM
We're going to have to define what level of care everyone has a "right" to.
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BocaHoo91
04/26/2016 09:45AM
I didn't know you liked death panels.
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Shenhoo
04/26/2016 09:56AM
But death panels really aren't in the hands of private insurers for the
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BocaHoo91
04/26/2016 10:15AM
Yeah? Wait till your wife gets cancer like mine did, and the hospital staff
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Shenhoo
04/26/2016 10:30AM
I'm sorry for your loss and no doubt this is a very tough issue that
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BocaHoo91
04/26/2016 1:23PM
Yeah. I'm sure. And honestly, I wasn't deeply angered by it.
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Shenhoo
04/26/2016 2:18PM
When my mom was dying, I walked out of a similar meeting and once my
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southdenverhoo
04/27/2016 5:41PM
I think you are going to have to have people buy catastrophic insurance
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KCHoo
04/26/2016 11:48AM
Yep. It's the CBO **
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WaxHoo
04/25/2016 7:40PM
$700K per person alive? NPV? What's the math on that? **
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BocaHoo91
04/25/2016 4:29PM
CBO (link)
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WaxHoo
04/25/2016 7:30PM
That's just dumb. If I take my mortgage, my kids private school tuition,
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BocaHoo91
04/25/2016 10:04PM
CFRB Realistic Baseline (link)
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WaxHoo
04/26/2016 08:30AM
I missed the part where they talk about $210 trillion in
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BocaHoo91
04/26/2016 09:31AM
Up-vote if I could ... **
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WaxHoo
04/25/2016 11:47AM
You pretty much make my point. The D's go in front of the camera and pitch
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HokieDan95
04/24/2016 10:13PM
LOL! Yeah that's what's going on. you got it; the Koch's thank you
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111Balz
04/25/2016 07:17AM
Eh no..you missed the point **
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HokieDan95
04/25/2016 09:29AM
Don't flatter yourself; you made no valid point **
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111Balz
04/25/2016 11:08AM
There was a point to your "pitch a fit" rant? **
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VAGentleman05
04/25/2016 09:45AM
You actually consider that sentence a rant? **
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HokieDan95
04/25/2016 10:30AM
Hard to tell. What did you edit out of it this time?
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VAGentleman05
04/25/2016 11:43AM
Did you look at the edit time? **
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HokieDan95
04/25/2016 12:14PM
Billions of dollars, BTW. **
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HowieT3
04/24/2016 11:10PM
Link? **
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PhillyHoo
04/25/2016 07:36AM
Not stupid at all.
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DanTheFan
04/24/2016 9:53PM
Mehlook at the damage done in Baltimore, Detroit, Chicago
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HokieDan95
04/24/2016 10:01PM
LMAO!! KS, LA, AZ, WI, NC Shall we go on?**
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WaxHoo
04/25/2016 10:46AM
OMG!! LOL!! LOL!!...my real question is should the big donors to the
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HokieDan95
04/25/2016 12:37PM
What KCHoo sez next below, in every respect. My point is for every
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WaxHoo
04/25/2016 1:42PM
I think the states he listed were a lot harder to break than those cities.
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KCHoo
04/25/2016 12:41PM
Not only the cities but Maryland and Illinois are long time blue , not sure
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HokieDan95
04/25/2016 12:48PM
LOL, what exactly do you think is wrong with Maryland?
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WahooRQ
04/25/2016 1:01PM
I think it's fair to say that the federal govt
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HoosGuy
04/26/2016 06:59AM
Obama's EPA has done no favors for WV's economy **
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Tuckahokie
04/25/2016 1:20PM
& the Surgeon General did NC no favor re: BigTobacco. Likewise the Ag Dept
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WaxHoo
04/25/2016 2:37PM
Except the farmers could use that same land to grow other crops...what is
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Tuckahokie
04/25/2016 3:05PM
Legalize weed, A few years back I read that weed was Kentucky third most
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Shenhoo
04/25/2016 5:19PM
Avery Markham was ahead of the curve on that one. **
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WahooRQ
04/25/2016 5:36PM
****
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WaxHoo
04/25/2016 2:39PM
Short run, no. Long run, yes
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DanTheFan
04/25/2016 1:56PM
Eh try reading more into the thread, we are talking about Baltimore, **
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HokieDan95
04/25/2016 1:14PM
Or KC's point went flying straight over your head. **
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WahooRQ
04/25/2016 1:19PM
Yeah...but it also has a bunch of Terps **
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Tuckahokie
04/25/2016 1:11PM
"crabcakes and football!!" **
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HokieDan95
04/25/2016 1:19PM
Fair point but Terp basketball season alone creates thousands of jobs...
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WahooRQ
04/25/2016 1:15PM
"think"? **
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111Balz
04/25/2016 1:08PM
That's a weak argument and hard to take seriously.
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DanTheFan
04/25/2016 09:19AM
By 'union-busting" you mean not forcing people to pay dues to an
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JMHoo
04/25/2016 09:52AM
It appears that the Walker model got a beat down nationally. **
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Shenhoo
04/25/2016 09:14AM
Not even close. he was both encouraging Bernie supprters
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111Balz
04/24/2016 8:28PM
Indication of how important an establishment candidate is to these people **
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dajoka004
04/24/2016 4:47PM
They don't want anybody who might disrupt their trickle up economics **
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hokeyhokie
04/24/2016 5:48PM
They can deal with four years of a centrist who will have to work with a
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WahooRQ
04/24/2016 11:19PM
Centrist? That's a joke righ? **
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AlexHoo
04/25/2016 08:35AM
In the alternate version of reality you call home, I'm sure it is. **
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WahooRQ
04/25/2016 09:29AM
Not from the Kochs' point of view obviously.
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Shenhoo
04/25/2016 09:13AM
HRC is closer to the middle than anybody else in the race (on either side) **
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VAGentleman05
04/25/2016 09:04AM
She is THE status quo candidate, for better or worse. **
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southdenverhoo
04/25/2016 09:47AM
The status quo being the Obama administration (which is an important part
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WahooRQ
04/25/2016 10:28AM
Right but by "status quo" I intended to encompass the entire current
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southdenverhoo
04/25/2016 7:50PM
...and the "Quid Pro Ho" :>o **
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Tuckahokie
04/25/2016 09:58AM
If, God forbid, Trump gets the nomination, the Trumpies will be taught...
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PhillyHoo
04/25/2016 07:38AM
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