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And it represents the viewpoint from the largest advocate

For immigration in this country. Its argument is basically that the bill could worsen the experience for people coming here applying for asylum.

Like the Maga response, it assumes a worst case, unlike the MAGA response, though it’s not based on outright lies about what the bill says.

(In response to this post by hoolstoptheheels)

Posted: 02/10/2024 at 09:06AM

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One of the many issues with the defeated $118 billion Senate “immigration” -- Hoos Operator 02/10/2024 07:54AM

The main issue is that any border/immigration legislation in an election -- Chuck Taylor 02/10/2024 08:52AM

The GOP passed legislation. The Dem senate has refused to consider it. ** -- Los Angeles Hoo 02/10/2024 09:08AM

Red herring ** -- 111Balz 02/10/2024 10:05AM

Yes, yes, of course. A legislative body passing… -- Los Angeles Hoo 02/10/2024 10:33AM

How hard are any Republicans in the Senate, or even house leader ship -- 111Balz 02/10/2024 10:40AM

What are you talking about? The House doesn't need to "push" anything... -- Los Angeles Hoo 02/10/2024 11:21AM

Yes, that’s your version of reality and you’re gonna stick to it no matter -- 111Balz 02/10/2024 12:06PM

So what? That’s how a divided Congress works. -- SixerHoo 02/10/2024 09:16AM

I would say the house is not interesting in gun bans -- TomKazanski 02/10/2024 10:03AM

Nobody with any sense is talking about an immigration “ban.” -- SixerHoo 02/10/2024 10:14AM

We will have taken on 12 million immigrants under biden -- TomKazanski 02/10/2024 10:33AM

Come back when you have any idea what you’re talking about. ** -- SixerHoo 02/10/2024 10:50AM

I think that’s a mischaracterization to the point of propaganda. -- hoolstoptheheels 02/10/2024 08:23AM

And it represents the viewpoint from the largest advocate -- 111Balz 02/10/2024 09:06AM

It’s a shame that it won’t be placed on the House floor for honest debate -- Newt 02/10/2024 08:19AM

It wasn’t placed on the SENATE floor. In contrast, the… -- Los Angeles Hoo 02/10/2024 08:52AM

Congressional Rs own the border situation now because -- SixerHoo 02/10/2024 09:00AM

The House already passed a border security bill. The Dems… -- Los Angeles Hoo 02/10/2024 09:20AM

The Congress of the United States passed nothing. Maybe the House -- SixerHoo 02/10/2024 09:25AM

The SENATE has passed nothing. The House has passed a bill. Ball is… -- Los Angeles Hoo 02/10/2024 09:28AM

The Dems in the Senate are the only members of Congress who have -- SixerHoo 02/10/2024 09:40AM

Lol. Um, that “reasonable compromise” was… -- Los Angeles Hoo 02/10/2024 10:03AM

It was rejected because Trump ordered it to be. We know why. ** -- SixerHoo 02/10/2024 11:09AM

Riiiiiiight. The guy who holds no office or gov't power made an "order".🤣 ** -- Los Angeles Hoo 02/10/2024 11:24AM

Oh, he has plenty of power. He has the Republican Party by the balls and he -- SixerHoo 02/10/2024 11:29AM

LOLZ ** -- Los Angeles Hoo 02/10/2024 11:33AM

One has to be willfully blind to pretend not to know that thing ** -- 111Balz 02/10/2024 12:11PM

Charlie Sykes calls his type of response "bleating". -- Newt 02/10/2024 5:09PM

Maybe there will be. The political maneuvering by repubs is nauseating, -- hoolstoptheheels 02/10/2024 08:45AM

HR2 says hi. ** -- JMHoo 02/10/2024 08:25AM

They must pretend not to know things. It’s 🌲. ** -- Los Angeles Hoo 02/10/2024 08:58AM

You must pretend not to know a bill must pass both houses of Congress ** -- SixerHoo 02/10/2024 11:31AM

Everyone knows what that bill is. Only stooges like you and JM keep bringin -- 111Balz 02/10/2024 09:01AM

What parts of it do you oppose? ** -- Los Angeles Hoo 02/10/2024 09:15AM

It basically parrots the MAGA agenda. Division B especially title one of -- 111Balz 02/10/2024 10:26AM

So does every other bill that never passed the full Congress and wasn’t -- SixerHoo 02/10/2024 08:52AM

Great. Let us know when you have 60 senators, the WH, and the house. -- hoolstoptheheels 02/10/2024 08:40AM

Even Hooda gave up on the partisan HR2 argument. If that's the best ... -- Blah 02/10/2024 08:38AM

HO forgets to highlight the SUMMARY of the Article ... -- Blah 02/10/2024 08:01AM

Of $118 billion, how much was directed to the US border security crisis? -- Hoos Operator 02/10/2024 08:15AM

You're linking the American Immigration Council. They believe the ... -- Blah 02/10/2024 08:17AM

As usual, Blah fails to stay on point - there were major flaws in in the -- Hoos Operator 02/10/2024 08:28AM

I really don’t think you actually know what’s in that bill, nor do -- 111Balz 02/10/2024 09:20AM

As usual, you fail to point out the conclusion of the article ... -- Blah 02/10/2024 08:34AM

I agree with a valid point they raised. How does that imply I agree with -- Hoos Operator 02/10/2024 08:40AM

We know. You're picking/choosing what fits your agenda. -- Blah 02/10/2024 08:45AM

Wrong again. I agreed with their point and found it well-articulated. -- Hoos Operator 02/10/2024 08:54AM

LOL. I copied their summary from your article and a statement ... -- Blah 02/10/2024 2:49PM

Their point was that there are provisions in the bill that if not managed -- 111Balz 02/10/2024 1:20PM

HO doesn't get it. That's why I tried give him the context of the ... -- Blah 02/10/2024 2:33PM

Here's a statement from Jeremy Robbins, the Executive Director ... -- Blah 02/10/2024 08:07AM

As many Republicans pointed out, even if Don were to win, they would not -- Lazarus 02/10/2024 08:12AM

It's HILARIOUS. By linking the American immigration Council, HO is -- Blah 02/10/2024 08:14AM

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