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I have no problem with either party "believing they were shafted".

If you can't see a massive difference between what Hillary did:

1) concede the election graciously on election night and call for her voters to give Donald Trump an 'open mind and a chance to lead"
2) Shut the hell up for the next 3 years
3) 3 years later in a sour grapes interview say ONE TIME that she considers Trump to be an illegitimate president, not because of a lie about fraud, but because of Russian interference in our election... a claim backed by extensive evidence in a 900 page bi-partisan senate report.

And what Trump did:
1) refuse to concede, ever.
2) Lie non stop about a stolen election and massive election fraud despite no evidence
3) Call on his Vice President to violate the constitution and refuse to certify the results
4) Call a local election official and pressure him to "find votes" for him
5) Give a fiery speech the day of the election certification including the the following gems:
"All of us here today do not want to see our election victory stolen by emboldened radical-left Democrats, which is what they're doing."

"You don't concede when there's theft involved"

"We will stop the steal. Today I will lay out just some of the evidence proving that we won this election and we won it by a landslide. This was not a close election." [Still waiting on any evidence]

"The states got defrauded. "

"Democrats attempted the most brazen and outrageous election theft and there's never been anything like this. So pure theft in American history. Everybody knows it."

"We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore"
5) culminating in Trump supporters, some dressed in 6MWE and camp auchwitz shirts, storming the capital and causing the first non-peaceful transfer of power ini this country,

Well, then I can help you and your mind numbing stupidity. And THIS is precisely the point of my original post in this thread. By the way, when I said there are two camps... one that is dumb enough to believe his lies, and one that knows he's full of shit but doesn't think it's a big deal. You clearly fall into the first category.

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Posted: 07/15/2022 at 10:55AM

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