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BocaHoo91

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Sigh, I don't know why I bother, but here goes:


1) agreed
2) 95% of covid deaths occurred after April 2020. While subsequent strains were less deadly, they were still deadly
3) Just simply not true. Not only were deaths 10x that of the flu, hospitalizations were also an order of magnitude higher than flu hospitalizations
4) People under 60 as a whole had a less than 1% chance of dying. Whether that is not a remotely meaningful danger is a matter of opinion and perspective. Even at a 0.1% chance of dying, there are over 250 million people under the age of 60. That's 250K deaths.
5) Agreed for the most part. But deaths under 25 (don't have a under 18 breakout) were up by 8-10% in 2020 and 2021 compared to expected deaths.
6) Perhaps, but if you include obesity, half the country has a comorbidity. And so what? That's the case a whole host of other diseases.
7) Disagree. Deaths in blue states which took Covid seriously and had more strict covid policies were FAR lower than deaths in red states. And extreme examples show us that policies did reduce deaths. Deaths in Singapore, South Korea, New Zealand, all of whom implemented very strict covid restrictions, were a small, small, small fraction of that of the US (Note, I wouldn't have supported their level of restrictions)
8) Just simply not true. Hospitals in NYC had bodies people filling up the hallways and they had to bring in mobile refrigeration units to store bodies. I know a hospitalist quite well and she would describe in detail the absolute shit show of them being overrun by patients. Even if we overall had excess hospital bed capacity, there were hospitals that were overwhelmed locally... and there was an significantly reduced ability to treat patients for other non-covid medical issues.
9) Deaths are predictable to +/- 2% every year for the last 75 years. The first two covid years were +20% compared to the HIGHLY predictable number of deaths. Just look at the chart. Predicting deaths isn't like predicting the weather. We can do it to within +/- 75K deaths each year. And we had +500K compared to that in the first two years. this is a bullshit argument and you know it.
10) No doubt some were. If they were non trivial, you should be able to point to these deaths and what caused them. I'll wait for your answer. And wait, and wait, and wait, no doubt.

(In response to this post by Los Angeles Hoo)

Posted: 01/10/2024 at 9:22PM



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