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hoolstoptheheels

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No, I disagree, it really doesn’t. It requires tolerance for different


Points of view and perspectives. I think Bibi, per the link below, helped bring those criticisms down on the Israeli govt with his anti-Arab citizen measures summarized below. I may not agree with that criticism of Israel (I think it’s over the top - the free Israeli press has been the primary whistleblower against Israeli policies against Arab citizens and non-citizens, over the years, and very much since Oct 7.). Calling Israel “racist” is not antisemitism. It’s criticism of a government.

I’m also not that put out by condemning all forms of bigotry, as long as it doesn’t exclude antisemitism. I don’t mind in the least when people want to link the rise in antisemitism now with the similar rise in anti-Muslim bigotry. I think the two are related and are a screaming alarm about rising illiberalism across our political spectrum.

I’m not interested in scapegoating individual leaders for expressing a completely different perspective from my own. I think she should have begun with a condemnation of the Hamas atrocities against women. Then her condemnation of acts against Palestinians would have greater moral clarity.

I disagree - those who have different points of view, and represent communities with different points of view, should be able to speak without being canceled. I don’t think I would’ve censured Tlaib either. I’d have argued with her, but she’s Palestinian herself and represents a heavy Muslim district. She’s not going to think like you and me on this. Censuring her doesn’t make her views change.

Imo, very few Americans really tolerate free speech anymore. They love looking for gotchas in speech, love canceling over the gotchas, but really, everybody now agrees with the ACLU that defending the Skokie Nazis was a mistake. The ACLU is right on one count - many Americans would call them Nazis if they did that today. Because we all understood freedom of expression far better 50 yrs ago.

[Post edited by hoolstoptheheels at 12/12/2023 11:02AM]

(In response to this post by Hoos Operator)

Link: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/how-netanyahu-s-campaign-against-israel-s-arab-citizens-backfired-n1056826


Posted: 12/12/2023 at 10:47AM



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