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RML Hoos

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What "most people think" should be the rules governing society is the basi


basis for essentially all laws throughout all of human history. That is with the exception of laws that came from authoritarian rulers or laws from some supernatural being.

Most people in our society believe you should not be able to take someone car or torture a dog or lie on your taxes but you should be allowed to chose the food you consume and wear red pants every Friday is you so chose, etc. Yes, there is a "spiritual" aspect undergirding any of these - the idea of individual "rights" is spiritual in nature - that a human has some inherent rights to themselves.

If we believe that humans have "rights" - which we clearly do as a society since that is how our society sets rules / laws, etc. - then those rights attach to the particular human at some point. When is that? When their egg is formed in their mother when she is just a fetus? The day of conception, when they have a heartbeat and brain activity, when they could be viably born, when the fetus is "full term" but not yet born, the day of their birth, when they stop nursing, when they have self awareness, when they can walk and talk, when they hit puberty, when they are 18, when they are 40? Do more rights attach over time or is it all at once?

I am not sure where saying these are "purely spiritual determinations" gets you since the very concepts of an individual human's rights vis-a-vis another human specifically or society generally is necessarily a somewhat "spiritual" concept.








[Post edited by RML Hoos at 11/06/2023 12:16PM]

(In response to this post by hoolstoptheheels)

Posted: 11/06/2023 at 12:13PM



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