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You’re not getting it though. This line out decision drives turnout

amongst a group that has historically not been very dependable when it comes to turnout. It doesn’t drive those on the other side of the issue to the polls. It’s the losing “side” that gets motivated.

(In response to this post by FrankGallagher)

Posted: 06/30/2023 at 11:46AM

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You’re not getting it though. This line out decision drives turnout -- wahoo138 06/30/2023 11:46AM

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