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111Balz

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No, as usual it is you. I have linked to the actual detail


So there are four categories. The top and bottom is what the state of NY gave them to build their factory headquarters in that state. SC employs over 13,000 people but I don't know how many are in NY. I too have an issue with states buying jobs and future tax revenue by give aways to manufacturing companies, but that is kind of a state's rights thing.

In this case though the relationship is a bit more complicated. from their own financial statement: In September 2014, a subsidiary of the Company entered into a build-to-suit lease arrangement with the Research Foundation for the State University of New York, or the Foundation, for the construction of an approximately 1.0 million square-feet solar panel manufacturing facility with a capacity of 1.0 gigawatts on an approximately 88.2 acre site located in Buffalo, New York. Under the terms of the arrangement, which has been amended, the Foundation will construct the manufacturing facility and install certain utilities and other improvements, with participation by the Company as to the design and construction of the manufacturing facility, and acquire certain manufacturing equipment designated by the Company to be used in the manufacturing facility. The Foundation will cover (i) construction costs related to the manufacturing facility in an amount up to $350.0 million, (ii) the acquisition and commissioning of the manufacturing equipment in an amount up to $348.1 million and (iii) $51.9 million for additional specified scope costs, in cases (i) and (ii) only, subject to the maximum funding allocation from the State of New York, and the Company will be responsible for any construction and equipment costs in excess of such amounts. The Foundation will own the manufacturing facility and manufacturing equipment purchased by the Foundation. Following completion of the manufacturing facility, the Company will lease the manufacturing facility and the manufacturing equipment owned by the Foundation from the Foundation for an initial period of 10 years, with an option to renew, for $2 per year plus utilities.

Under the terms of the build-to-suit lease arrangement, the Company is required to achieve specific operational milestones during the initial term of the lease, which include employing a certain number of employees at the facility, within western New York and within the State of New York within specified time periods following the completion of the facility. The Company is also required to spend or incur approximately $5.0 billion in combined capital, operational expenses and other costs in the State of New York over the 10 years following the achievement of full production. On an annual basis during the initial lease term, as measured on each anniversary of the commissioning of the facility, if the Company fails to meet its specified investment and job creation obligations, then it would be obligated to pay a $41.2 million “program payment” to the Foundation for each year that it fails to meet these requirements. Furthermore, if the agreement is terminated due to a material breach by the Company, then additional amounts might be payable by the Company.


The other two however are tax credits provided by the federal gov't and the state of for new solar energy production facilities that Solar City has built and for the most sold all or most of its ownership to utilities or investors. Those projects produce power like a utility.

(In response to this post by TomKazanski)

Link: http://www.latimes.com/local/la-fi-hy-musk-subsidies-box-20150530-story.html


Posted: 11/16/2016 at 1:40PM



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