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The HBO show Vice did an interesting case study on Chicago last year that -- WahooRQ 09/07/2016 2:26PM That is interesting. the gangs are having to rebalance themselves. ** -- KCHoo 09/07/2016 3:05PM Seems to be happening on a much larger scale in CHI than anywhere else due -- WahooRQ 09/07/2016 3:28PM Sounds similar to the story about why Mexico got so violent in recent years -- Toolie92 09/07/2016 8:06PM And yet, the rate is 1/2 of what it was in 1992. -- GoochlandHoo 09/07/2016 1:09PM It's not half though. There were 651 murders by firearm -- BocaHoo91 09/07/2016 1:56PM Oops, looks like the 500 is total homicides, not just gun -- BocaHoo91 09/07/2016 2:04PM 92 was the height of the crack epidemic but the murder rates -- KCHoo 09/07/2016 2:11PM That is what I'm interested in. Is it worse now than in those days...more -- GoochlandHoo 09/07/2016 3:32PM Nearly 1,000 in 1992 ** -- Hoogle.com 09/07/2016 1:48PM Perhaps a good epithet for our society, "everyone has a gun" ** -- 111Balz 09/07/2016 10:57AM There are several victims in the Rugby Road/Gordon/Cabell Avenue area ... -- Trigon 09/07/2016 2:31PM They would increase their odds of dying if they had. ** -- KCHoo 09/07/2016 7:37PM Don't worry -- he's going to bring a feel to your fact fight. ** -- WahooRQ 09/08/2016 08:55AM Pushing guns on a suicide-prone, impulsive and frequently drunk population -- Toolie92 09/07/2016 10:35PM If the thugs had reason to believe they were armed, they'd have stayed ... -- Trigon 09/07/2016 8:47PM "thugs", eh? Just use the word you mean. ** -- WahooRQ 09/08/2016 09:20AM Oh? so explain Chicago. Explain gang warfare -- 111Balz 09/07/2016 9:07PM These are more likely criminals that understand that they are picking off - -- Trigon 09/07/2016 9:17PM Ah. Of course. Thanks. Normally once would need -- 111Balz 09/07/2016 9:31PM Perhaps the bowling alley is where you and all of your acquaintances ... -- Trigon 09/07/2016 9:48PM Ah there it is....when you got nothing, you go there ** -- 111Balz 09/08/2016 08:08AM Truth hurts. ** -- Trigon 09/08/2016 08:49AM Sometimes, let me know when you find some ** -- 111Balz 09/08/2016 08:53AM And if only the pre-teens in Sandy Hook were armed. Brilliant as always. ** -- AngusHoo 09/07/2016 5:57PM Were there any adults at Sandy Hook? Brilliant as always. ** -- Trigon 09/07/2016 8:46PM Yeah more armed people is always a good thing. Did we learn nothing from -- 111Balz 09/07/2016 2:34PM What did you learn from Tombstone.... ** -- hoothat 09/07/2016 10:43PM What did you learn from Orlando? ** -- Trigon 09/07/2016 8:45PM It's a small world after all? ** -- 111Balz 09/07/2016 8:57PM I will give you credit for answering honestly. ** -- Trigon 09/08/2016 08:50AM Clearly Chicago needs more gun laws. -- Hoodafan 09/07/2016 1:59PM Laws won't help if guns are easily available. ** -- KCHoo 09/07/2016 2:13PM Especially if they're not enforced. I think that's the guy's point. ** -- Hoodafan 09/07/2016 2:16PM Willful ignorance about the supply component of illegal guns is maddening. -- WahooRQ 09/07/2016 2:31PM To begin with, I actually support gun registration because I'm not sure -- Hoodafan 09/07/2016 2:41PM Not everyone has an illegal gun. ** -- Hokieesith 09/07/2016 12:54PM Epitaph? ** -- WaxHoo 09/07/2016 12:09PM Eppy Pen? ** -- Hoogle.com 09/07/2016 1:49PM Maybe both ** -- 111Balz 09/07/2016 1:00PM For Balz...Guns are an epithet ** -- Tuckahokie 09/07/2016 12:11PM No, he meant guns are a toxin in society and we need a collective EpiPen -- Fuzzy Dunlop 09/07/2016 1:05PM Hey I agree, but we need the pre-marked up price on the epis ** -- 111Balz 09/07/2016 1:30PM It's a violence/hopelessness problem, not guns -- PalmyraHoo 09/07/2016 11:56AM That's kind of silly as it relates to the violence Chicago is currently -- hoolstoptheheels 09/07/2016 1:17PM But a whole lot less of them would be getting shot -- 111Balz 09/07/2016 1:01PM Exactly - difference could be a bloody nose vs. a bullet hole. ** -- hoolstoptheheels 09/07/2016 1:18PM I do not own a single firearm and never have. ** -- jdubforwahoowa 09/07/2016 11:00AM I am not sure many of of can even imagine/comprehend living in -- KCHoo 09/07/2016 11:02AM That's why everyone with half a brain gets the heck out as soon as possible ** -- Faz d. Hoo 09/07/2016 11:21AM That's a pretty ignorant and insensitive post, Faz. -- WahooRQ 09/07/2016 1:33PM This is just a bunch of excuse making -- Faz d. Hoo 09/07/2016 3:44PM Another word is "empathy." And understanding that not everyone -- WahooRQ 09/07/2016 4:07PM Does everyone that lives there have the resources to leave? ** -- Tuckahokie 09/07/2016 11:43AM No. ** -- Faz d. Hoo 09/07/2016 12:09PM And we have to ask ourselves how was that society created? ** -- Hokie5150 09/07/2016 11:06AM 1. War on Drugs 2. Housing Discrimination ** -- Wahoo#22 09/07/2016 12:21PM Well throw in centuries of oppression from slavery to Jim Crow -- 111Balz 09/07/2016 1:12PM In 1960 there were actually less single parent African American families -- Tuckahokie 09/07/2016 12:32PM No, you are assuming that something new happened and chnaged everything. -- 111Balz 09/07/2016 1:09PM You speak as if you have a lot of insight into the issues ... -- Trigon 09/07/2016 2:50PM Re: You speak as if you have a lot of insight into the issues ... -- 111Balz 09/07/2016 8:44PM Re: You speak as if you have a lot of insight into the issues ... -- Trigon 09/07/2016 9:36PM How did the government incent the creation of single familes? ** -- 111Balz 09/08/2016 08:11AM Really? -- Trigon 09/08/2016 08:56AM Yeah those assistance payments really cover the cost of a child AND -- 111Balz 09/08/2016 09:47AM Lots of blacks live in his neighborhood, I'm sure. -- Hokieesith 09/07/2016 5:26PM So...what caused the dissolution of the black family? Conditions are -- Tuckahokie 09/07/2016 1:33PM Feminism is one thing. Loose hips, sink ships. -- Hokieesith 09/07/2016 5:29PM Read the Moynihan Report if you want the opinion of a very smart man ** -- Toolie92 09/07/2016 2:31PM Well worth a read. I think some people ignore it in part because -- KCHoo 09/07/2016 3:14PM It was also politically incorrect in the good sense of the term -- Toolie92 09/07/2016 11:59PM The rate has gone up across all races but the crack trade and then -- KCHoo 09/07/2016 1:58PM Nothing puts more pressure on marriages/relationships than poverty -- 111Balz 09/07/2016 1:47PM And yet the rate of out of wedlock births increased with the implementation -- Hokie5150 09/07/2016 2:38PM Sure, right, that's what happened ** -- 111Balz 09/07/2016 8:38PM Were there more single parent households in 1930 than 2016? -- Trigon 09/07/2016 2:27PM I have no idea. But if you wish to reject some -- 111Balz 09/07/2016 2:36PM Poverty is not new so that has little to do with it imo. Lots of -- KCHoo 09/07/2016 2:08PM Well that is simply not so. The type of inner city poverty -- 111Balz 09/07/2016 2:41PM That has nothing to do with the question of what has changed -- KCHoo 09/07/2016 3:10PM Again you are assuming something has changed to cause this rather -- 111Balz 09/07/2016 6:01PM I am. I think the percentage change pretty clearly show that -- KCHoo 09/07/2016 9:55PM Similar trend lines among poor across racial lines, -- 111Balz 09/08/2016 08:55AM In large part the stigma of out of wedlock parenthood is basically -- Tuckahokie 09/07/2016 3:14PM Yeah but is that REALLY a driver of single mother families -- 111Balz 09/07/2016 6:06PM Yes -- and that is a cultural change that runs accross all society ** -- KCHoo 09/07/2016 3:15PM Which leads to the question, why did some break through, and others did not -- GoochlandHoo 09/07/2016 1:21PM Usually a combination of talent and exceptional parents (and good luck). -- WahooRQ 09/07/2016 1:35PM That is how Ice Cube made it out. -- jdubforwahoowa 09/08/2016 12:15PM Well we can't ignore the role of quotas which FORCED -- 111Balz 09/07/2016 1:28PM The gangs in LA started the street wars and then Rap glorified it. -- jdubforwahoowa 09/07/2016 11:10AM That's not how it happened in the Godfather** -- Quaker 09/07/2016 12:13PM But it did happen that way in Straight Outta Compton. ** -- jdubforwahoowa 09/07/2016 12:28PM The first movie to ever glorify violence? -- Quaker 09/07/2016 12:59PM We would be getting into a Texas Chainsaw Massacre type thread. -- jdubforwahoowa 09/07/2016 1:21PM But avoid trying to rely on simple explanations when -- KCHoo 09/07/2016 11:08AM You can be the ying to my yang just above you. :-) ** -- jdubforwahoowa 09/07/2016 11:10AM You and I have agreed and disagreed on a lot of things, but, yes, I think -- jdubforwahoowa 09/07/2016 11:04AM Rap music doesnt not fit the tragedy -- Wahoo Ron 09/07/2016 10:19AM Did you ever think that maybe it's not the violence that's being glori -- Hoojack 09/07/2016 10:39AM Wasted effort ** -- 111Balz 09/07/2016 10:58AM Revenge and hatred are options, to be sure. ** -- Wahoo Ron 09/07/2016 10:53AM If we only seek information that confirms what we already know, why se -- Hoojack 09/07/2016 11:00AM Dr. Dre has turned it into a Billion $ empire for himself and I believe -- jdubforwahoowa 09/07/2016 10:59AM Beautiful song, but I think glorifying the violence is part of the story ** -- KCHoo 09/07/2016 10:27AM
