W/out anything big coming out against Clinton, this wll be an uphill climb -- JohnHoo2 06/27/2016 3:21PM Except that they aren't in any way equally depressing. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 06/27/2016 4:38PM I agree. Clinton is more depressing. Trump is more terrifying. ** -- 81_Hokie 06/27/2016 7:09PM They absolutely are if one values liberty... ** -- Hokie5150 06/27/2016 5:58PM I see many reasons not to like Clinton, but what does she has to do with -- JohnHoo2 06/28/2016 07:57AM Why does your cat's breath smell like cat food? ** -- WahooRQ 06/28/2016 08:05AM That is really a clueless post. I mean, you're really lost ** -- 111Balz 06/27/2016 8:55PM Is that your highest value? -- DanTheFan 06/27/2016 6:58PM Yes...what value should be higher? -- Hokie5150 06/27/2016 8:01PM Start with the Declaration of Independence -- DanTheFan 06/28/2016 08:50AM Without liberty, I'd say life cannot be fully lived. ** -- Hokie5150 06/28/2016 11:03AM Justice, tranquility, corporate protection, welfare, liberty ** -- NJHoo 06/27/2016 8:13PM You think tranquility and welfare should be higher than liberty? -- BocaHoo91 06/28/2016 07:11AM Honestly, I think most people will place tranquility and welfare before -- JohnHoo2 06/28/2016 09:07AM That is a scary (and sad, IMHO) thought...it is likely true, though. ** -- Hokie5150 06/28/2016 12:02PM I just lifted those elements from the preamble to the Constitution -- NJHoo 06/28/2016 08:33AM Without liberty, can the others truly exist? ** -- Hokie5150 06/28/2016 06:40AM Why the f would anyone with a brain think Hillary -- 111Balz 06/28/2016 08:13AM Depends how far she takes us down the Euro/Cali progressive path ** -- Tuckahokie 06/28/2016 08:54AM "the euro/cali progressive path?" LOL!!! ** -- 111Balz 06/28/2016 10:20AM Well, let's see. HRC supports the Patriot Act, she supports restricting -- Hokie5150 06/28/2016 08:43AM I don't like Hillary, but I think you're getting pretty far out there -- BocaHoo91 06/28/2016 10:37AM You actually attempted to answer a question? Wow -- 111Balz 06/28/2016 10:19AM LOL! I always attempt to engage in discussion whenever possible and -- Hokie5150 06/28/2016 10:29AM Did you ever answer Shen's question belowyou know the -- 111Balz 06/28/2016 10:40AM Please. I've addressed all that I've seen to the best of my ability and/or -- Hokie5150 06/28/2016 10:54AM Link -- 111Balz 06/28/2016 1:56PM Please see reason 3 above ** -- Hokie5150 06/28/2016 2:05PM Well I guess a man needs to know his limitations ** -- 111Balz 06/28/2016 1:37PM She is a direct threat to your freedom to pay women less than men and, if -- WahooRQ 06/28/2016 08:26AM Pay women less than men? Give me a break. ** -- BocaHoo91 06/28/2016 09:16AM LOL! You believe the myth of women earning 75 cents on the dollar compared -- Hokie5150 06/28/2016 08:50AM I don't think that FACT is even disputable. You may argue about the REASON -- WahooRQ 06/28/2016 11:16AM Right, but something like 60% of the wage gap is due to -- BocaHoo91 06/28/2016 11:38AM Sure...if one simply takes all women and what they make vs all -- Hokie5150 06/28/2016 11:28AM The fact that people consider having children a "lifestyle choice" is part -- WahooRQ 06/28/2016 12:57PM How is deciding to have children not a lifestyle choice? ** -- Hokie5150 06/28/2016 2:33PM What do you mean? I think it's great for people to start -- BocaHoo91 06/28/2016 1:13PM You should repeat that to every woman you know ** -- 111Balz 06/28/2016 10:17AM I would gladly do it. I've had the discussion with my wife -- BocaHoo91 06/28/2016 10:49AM My wife and I discuss it routinely as she's a corporate HR/Payroll director** -- Hokie5150 06/28/2016 11:16AM I do. Most of the women I know are smart enough to know the vast -- Hokie5150 06/28/2016 10:39AM If most women you know believe that, they are not -- 111Balz 06/28/2016 10:42AM SMH. ** -- Hoodafan 06/28/2016 11:46AM Quite the contrary…. -- BocaHoo91 06/28/2016 11:21AM So in order, you're the one focusing on a number or %, not me; -- 111Balz 06/28/2016 1:44PM If you can't accept #1, it's not worth even discussing with you -- BocaHoo91 06/28/2016 2:12PM Let's drop it. maybe women are just whiners ** -- 111Balz 06/28/2016 8:34PM LOL. I'll take that as agreement that women DO -- BocaHoo91 06/29/2016 12:19AM I was just trying to avoid arguing with you, that's all. The "gap" -- 111Balz 06/29/2016 10:15AM Or perhaps they are smarter than you... ** -- Hokie5150 06/28/2016 11:05AM Wait...it's legal to pay women less than men...who knew? ** -- Moneyshot 06/28/2016 08:43AM Apparently, because the Clinton campaign has a wage gap issue... -- Hokie5150 06/28/2016 09:05AM Wrong ** -- Mr Wahoo 06/27/2016 5:33PM True, but who is more depressing depends on who you ask :) ** -- JohnHoo2 06/27/2016 5:16PM It shouldn't be, based on policy and temperament. Hill is far and away a -- Seattle .Hoo 06/27/2016 5:27PM They both suck -- hoothat 06/27/2016 5:45PM Maybe. I do disagree on a point though. I actually think that Hillary would -- Seattle .Hoo 06/27/2016 5:54PM It's just not a fair comparison between her and Trump -- Fuzzy Dunlop 06/28/2016 10:30AM The fact that you can't see that they are both horrible -- hoothat 06/27/2016 8:35PM Right on target. ** -- Hokie5150 06/28/2016 12:05PM Ah, one of the "independent" voters. You're so enlightened. ;) ** -- Seattle .Hoo 06/28/2016 02:15AM Lol -- hoothat 06/28/2016 10:53AM Yep. It doesn't take enlightenment...just a heartbeat and brainwave -- Hokie5150 06/28/2016 12:06PM Mugwump is the word -- NJHoo 06/28/2016 08:28AM Wrong ** -- Mr Wahoo 06/27/2016 5:34PM In any 'normal' election, or in fact at any time prior to, say, the last... -- EAPo 06/27/2016 3:40PM Terrifying still works in this case ** -- MaizeAndBlueWahoo 06/27/2016 3:23PM I don't really consider either one to be truly terrifing. -- JohnHoo2 06/27/2016 3:30PM Except there is no reason to think Clinton -- 111Balz 06/27/2016 3:56PM Maybe not, but I also don't see her able to push through any agenda through -- JohnHoo2 06/27/2016 5:16PM It's a real risk, I agree. I am hoping the difference is that -- 111Balz 06/28/2016 1:53PM There are three things you can be sure of with Clinton -- Faz d. Hoo 06/27/2016 4:16PM Other than most of her BOW since 1993, of course. -- WahooRQ 06/27/2016 4:30PM Lol -- hoothat 06/27/2016 11:41PM I actually approve of the way she handled Hillarycare -- AlexHoo 06/27/2016 5:19PM Honestly, I am unfamiliar with her legislative accomplishments in the -- TpkeHoo 06/27/2016 4:58PM What do you mean by "legislative accomplishments"? Statutes with her name -- WahooRQ 06/27/2016 5:09PM You're so deeply involved w/ sources that you post non stop on Soapbox ** -- Mr Wahoo 06/27/2016 5:37PM That is Soapbox Gold! POTY ** -- TpkeHoo 06/27/2016 5:53PM You do understand most law firms have government relations divisions -- WahooRQ 06/27/2016 6:07PM I DO UNDERSTAND that lawyers bill hourly gross amounts of $$$ - -- Mr Wahoo 06/27/2016 7:53PM What's a law firm? Govt Relations? I feel smarter already ** -- TpkeHoo 06/27/2016 6:21PM Well I do envision you as the guy who takes slip and falls out of a strip -- WahooRQ 06/27/2016 6:47PM I'm sure she's a smart woman. But I need a little more than -- TpkeHoo 06/27/2016 6:54PM I'd be fine making John Edwards money too, LOL. -- WahooRQ 06/27/2016 7:42PM Thanks for taking the time to respond. ** -- TpkeHoo 06/27/2016 7:53PM Y/W. If I may ask.... -- WahooRQ 06/27/2016 8:21PM I wont vote for HRC. I'm no Trump fan either. Like the Brexit voters who -- TpkeHoo 06/27/2016 8:32PM Who were you pulling for in the primaries? You don't really seem like a -- VAGentleman05 06/27/2016 10:19PM There were several I liked and none of them had a shot. -- TpkeHoo 06/28/2016 06:18AM Thanks, TPKE. This actually turned into an interesting discussion for once -- WahooRQ 06/28/2016 08:21AM I do waste a lot of time with useless idiots like yourself. -- WahooRQ 06/27/2016 5:44PM Or get a job jerk ** -- Mr Wahoo 06/27/2016 7:54PM Still mad about Princess Leia choking you out and crashing your barge? ** -- WahooRQ 06/27/2016 8:00PM Wow - you really got me there man - ** -- Mr Wahoo 06/27/2016 9:11PM Only significant vote was for the War, other than that a bench warmer ** -- AlexHoo 06/27/2016 5:20PM That's how we describe kids who didn't stand out on the field. They -- TpkeHoo 06/27/2016 6:24PM I asked if she proposed any meaningful legislation. Thanks for -- TpkeHoo 06/27/2016 5:17PM Sniff Sniff… the poor dear angel.** -- LAHOOters 06/27/2016 4:37PM I get that right wingers hate her guts. Not my question. ** -- WahooRQ 06/27/2016 4:41PM Lol, not only right wingers ** -- hoothat 06/28/2016 01:17AM Yep...that damned vast, right-wing conspiracy is out to get her. ** -- Hokie5150 06/27/2016 4:53PM Laughed my arse off when she said recently that we can't have a President -- LAHOOters 06/27/2016 5:17PM Time to update 5150. It's the HeManWomanHaters club now. ** -- Hoodafan 06/27/2016 5:16PM