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fishhoo

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How can you argue with a straight face that a former President is allowed


to personally retain essentially anything he wants in private stash for the rest of his life including the most sensitive national security documents one can imagine? That is truly an absurd notion to me -- not only that it would be ok, but that in theory anyone even THINKS it could be ok. This is what you are arguing. What is the chicken or egg issue? Just address this simple concept. You truly think it should be absolutely legal for a former President to stash a list CIA operatives for example in his house post Presidency or other deeply sensitive information that a foreign government would love to know? How on earth can you think this?

It is a completely separate issue to debate other examples from other past Presidents. This is then a debate about selective enforcement. Absolutely if other past Presidents retained national security documents -- this was wrong. As far as the record seems to show -- YES, this has happened with others, likely common at some level. But the record seems to also show that in every single other instance, when an issue us discovered -- it is quickly and properly remedied. All Trump had to so was the exact same.....but he did the opposite. What part about this distinction is not clear to you? You gloss over this as meaningless.

The Clinton sock drawer case concerned one single set of "documents" according to all I read -- a set of personal interview recordings. It seemed at least incredibly logical to define this as recorded personal notes/diary type stuff based on the facts as we know them --- nothing in the universe of National Security documents. God gave us brains --- precisely to use and be able to make case by case analysis exactly like this. Am I missing part of the Clinton story --- if my facts are wrong and everyone knows the Clinton stuff was in reality National Security stuff ridiculously defined as personal -- feel free to make this argument. But you dont have any facts like this. You just seem to say it.

As its been said -- we are all free to our own opinions, but not really our own facts.

(In response to this post by Los Angeles Hoo)

Posted: 04/05/2024 at 7:26PM



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