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You might need one of these.

You are going to drive yourself crazy trying to defend that position with Kamala, Pelosi, and every other politician during 2020 protests, Ferguson, BLM, Antifa, etc. It's not a good position to take.

On your last point, yes i agree with that. He needed to say something earlier to see if he could put a halt to it.

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Why don't you accept the anger over lack of access to pink pussy hats?!?!? ** -- ResistHoo 01/02/2023 3:56PM

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You might need one of these. -- psychobilly 01/02/2023 3:33PM

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A mob in a different location. Zero danger to the government. -- psychobilly 01/02/2023 4:18PM

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Thanks for acknowledging my right in the middle stance. ** -- psychobilly 01/02/2023 2:50PM

You occasionally make some good points. This isn't one of those times. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 01/02/2023 2:56PM

I only speak when I make good points. -- psychobilly 01/02/2023 3:07PM

LOL! Fair enough. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 01/02/2023 3:26PM

He's more than entitled to his opinions. However ... -- Blah 01/02/2023 2:58PM

I told a so-called independent at lunch one time that I thought that label -- Seattle .Hoo 01/02/2023 3:03PM

You know what independents and moderates say ... -- Blah 01/02/2023 3:09PM

Eek. Midterms removed Dems control of the govt. Womp Womp. ** -- psychobilly 01/02/2023 3:20PM

Don't the Democrats still control the Senate and the White House? -- Blah 01/02/2023 3:23PM

You proved your own argument wrong in the last post. Dems LOST the House -- psychobilly 01/02/2023 3:26PM

LOL. That's hardly losing "control" of the government ... -- Blah 01/02/2023 3:34PM

People's saying something over and over again doesn't make it true. -- psychobilly 01/02/2023 3:37PM

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Dem's lost control of the House after taking control 2 years earlier. -- psychobilly 01/02/2023 4:33PM

Enough of them did, but not nearly as many as would normally be expected. -- SixerHoo 01/02/2023 4:44PM

LOL. Controlling the Senate & White House is "losing control" ... -- Blah 01/02/2023 3:40PM

Hehe, i love your attempts at semantics. But yes, Dems lost control. ** -- psychobilly 01/02/2023 3:41PM

How close minded. ** -- psychobilly 01/02/2023 3:06PM

That's sad that you don't get upset about that. -- psychobilly 01/02/2023 2:22PM

Way to avoid the question. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 01/02/2023 2:23PM

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Because it was not attacked? A mob broke into a government -- psychobilly 01/02/2023 2:31PM

It absolutely was attacked and is in no way equivalent to the Floyd riots. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 01/02/2023 2:32PM

Way to avoid the question ** -- psychobilly 01/02/2023 2:40PM

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No you haven't. And I'm not playing your little game. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 01/02/2023 2:51PM

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Or much of anything else ** -- 111Balz 01/02/2023 4:10PM

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Looks like i've got Blah on the verge of meltdown territory! -- psychobilly 01/02/2023 3:41PM

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You’ve got him now. ** -- JMHoo 01/02/2023 11:17AM

Hoo’s the lawfully elected POTUS, JM? ** -- WaxHoo 01/02/2023 12:51PM

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JM believes in forced carry for raped 10 year old girls. -- LonghornHokie 01/02/2023 1:29PM

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If that's why you think you're called Foghorn... -- ResistHoo 01/02/2023 2:51PM

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Whatever you say, Retwit ** -- LonghornHokie 01/02/2023 3:31PM

Glad to help, idiot! ** -- ResistHoo 01/02/2023 3:32PM

He did. See Trump v. Congress ** -- WaxHoo 01/02/2023 1:55PM

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LOL. If Hillary had done the same things you'd say the same thing.... -- HoodatB 01/02/2023 12:47PM

First time in American history the word fight had been used in a political -- HokieDan95 01/02/2023 12:39PM

Dan, for future reference, that’s not a very good excuse to try and use ** -- 111Balz 01/02/2023 12:58PM

The mob obviously took him literally. Why do you think they did that? -- SixerHoo 01/02/2023 12:47PM

Epps is the only person documented to have to have told people to go in the -- HokieDan95 01/02/2023 12:56PM

The President, his allies in government, allies in the party, leaders of -- Seattle .Hoo 01/02/2023 2:06PM

Who is blaming the whole thing on him? he openly helped incite the Capitol -- HokieDan95 01/03/2023 12:45PM

Dan, if you actually believe that I’m sincerely concerned about you. -- SixerHoo 01/02/2023 2:05PM

HIS OWN DAUGHTER WAS MAD HE WAS NOT TELLING THEM TO STOP! -- HoodatB 01/02/2023 1:04PM

They won’t own it because if they do they’re complicit too. ** -- SixerHoo 01/02/2023 4:46PM

YOU LIE! ** -- WaxHoo 01/02/2023 1:01PM

No, Dan, you’re being fed bullshit again ** -- 111Balz 01/02/2023 12:59PM

Fight whom, why, for what. The election was over, fascist asshole. -- WaxHoo 01/02/2023 12:45PM

On January 6, what were people supposed to be fighting for? ** -- Seattle .Hoo 01/02/2023 12:43PM

How does telling them to fight like hell make him not an insurrectionist -- WaxHoo 01/02/2023 12:19PM

“Insurrectionists” (link) -- JMHoo 01/02/2023 12:36PM

It's cooler when we do it, though. ** -- ResistHoo 01/02/2023 1:34PM

I feel sorry for you. ** -- HoodatB 01/02/2023 1:04PM

Yeah. Those are the same aren’t they. You fucking fascist idiot. -- WaxHoo 01/02/2023 12:49PM

.** -- WaxHoo 01/02/2023 12:46PM

Get back to us when any of those people try to prevent the -- SixerHoo 01/02/2023 12:43PM

Completely irrelevant clips to defend the indefensible. What exactly were -- Seattle .Hoo 01/02/2023 12:42PM

Can’t. Won’t. ** -- WaxHoo 01/02/2023 12:48PM

The Cult Must Believe** -- HokieDan95 01/02/2023 12:08PM

You clearly do ** -- WaxHoo 01/02/2023 1:41PM

Dan, you’re projecting again.** -- 111Balz 01/02/2023 12:57PM

Yes, apparently you must ** -- TomGlansAski 01/02/2023 12:51PM

Hoo’s the lawfully elected POTUS, shitface. ** -- WaxHoo 01/02/2023 12:47PM

What do you believe, Dan? Did Trump not incite the 1/6 mob to -- SixerHoo 01/02/2023 12:32PM

JM is still waiting for a Qari Lake miracle. He still believes. ** -- Blah 01/02/2023 12:27PM

Why was anyone at all in DC for what is a ceremonial business? Why did they -- Seattle .Hoo 01/02/2023 12:11PM

And to fight. Why do you need to fight when you've lost? ** -- Seattle .Hoo 01/02/2023 12:05PM

Was Trump informed some of these people were armed? ** -- Blah 01/02/2023 12:08PM

Eat shit you despicable loser. Your weak D list gaslighting doesn’t work -- WahooRQ 01/02/2023 12:04PM

Not a bit. Now if JM (R-Trump or moRon) wants to demonstrate -- Shenhoo 01/02/2023 12:08PM

LOL yeah, that was definitely the totality of his message. -- SixerHoo 01/02/2023 11:59AM

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