The Soapbox

Joined: 03/05/2014 Posts: 19769
Likes: 30413

What's this?

You're misstating hypocrisy, IMO,...

Hypocrisy arises when one behaves in a way that is inconsistent with one's stated standards and then is exacerbated by criticizing another for the same.

Regarding Trump's alleged affairs, Trump has never claimed to be pure -- in fact, he's always boasted about being quite the rake, as far as I know. Regardless, the Christian right had the choice of supporting him or a Clinton in 2016. Case closed on that issue. Further, neither Trump nor the Christian right were going after Biden for marital infidelity. So, even if the allegations about Trump's marital fidelity are true, they don't represent hypocrisy, especially since voting for someone doesn't mean you approve of their personal life -- a place where any Christian would understand we are all flawed.

Second, Trump did not lie about election corruption or the Russia hoax, so you're factually wrong on those issues, but even if you were right, it would not be a matter of hypocrisy.

An actual example of hypocrisy would be the left's treatment of Cuomo vs. Trump/Cruz on the COVID/gov't malfeasance issue. Cuomo was lauded by many on the left as some paragon of COVID genius, when in fact he made decisions that led DIRECTLY to the deaths of some people and then covered it up, both obstructing justice and public health. Neither Trump nor Cruz did that with respect to COVID or the Texas storms, nor did either of them hold out COVID or the Texas storms as the be-all-and-end-all of political issues.

Leftist hypocrisy is also evident in the election and Russian claims themselves when 1) the Dems have regularly contested election results, including 2000, 2004 and 2016, yet they called the Trump/Cruz/Hawley contests insurrection/sedition/treason, and 2) it was the Dems who colluded with Russians via the Steele dossier to tilt the 2016 election, yet Trump was the one falsely accused of colluding with Russians.

As an aside, none of the above is to say that some on the right don't engage in hypocrisy from time to time -- in fact, we probably all do it to some degree. I'm just pointing out that 1) the left does it with abandon and 2) they feel no shame when they get called out for it, whereas the right sometimes does (e.g., Cruz coming back from Cancun with his tail between his legs).

(In response to this post by CMUHoo)

Posted: 02/20/2021 at 3:44PM

PREV NEXT REPLY

Insert a Link

Enter the title of the link here:

Enter the full web address of the link here -- include the "http://" part:

Current Thread:

How did Cuomo become the most written about person in Q-land? Have -- Lazarus 02/20/2021 2:09PM

Here is a good article about the rule, what was said, etc. be sure to -- 111Balz 02/21/2021 07:51AM

If we're talking about media hypocrisy, here's Slate destroying him -- CMUHoo 02/20/2021 7:54PM

Nobody here is defending Cuomo. ** -- 111Balz 02/21/2021 07:36AM

I know. This was in reference to the discussion below. -- CMUHoo 02/21/2021 09:31AM

Gotcha, sorry as I go back and reread it that’s pretty clear -- 111Balz 02/21/2021 09:39AM

He did have a pretty big fuck up. ** -- BocaHoo91 02/20/2021 6:06PM

Andy lied, people died! ** -- FrankGallagher 02/20/2021 6:35PM

I don’t think people died because he lied ** -- Zhoo 02/20/2021 6:44PM

That's true -- MaizeAndBlueWahoo 02/20/2021 6:53PM

How many people died because they sent -- 111Balz 02/21/2021 07:35AM

How confident are you with the numbers -- Zhoo 02/20/2021 6:55PM

Believe it or not.... -- MaizeAndBlueWahoo 02/20/2021 7:01PM

Where did Texans get tested this past week? ** -- 111Balz 02/21/2021 07:34AM

Noooooooooooooooooo!!!!! ** -- psychobilly 02/20/2021 5:18PM

Biden should tweet out, LIBERATE FLORIDA! or LIBERATE TEXAS! ;) ** -- Seattle .Hoo 02/20/2021 3:46PM

I wonder if Cal-exit Borg will look for a different territory to colonize? ** -- Tuckahokie 02/20/2021 5:31PM

Old news. The phrase "Don't Californicate Washington" was around at least -- Seattle .Hoo 02/20/2021 5:44PM

That seemed to be big back in the 90's when I working for a company based -- Tuckahokie 02/20/2021 5:59PM

There was a writer for the Seattle Post-Intelligencer, Emmett Watson, who -- Seattle .Hoo 02/20/2021 6:08PM

POTD Seattle, chapeau. ** -- Lazarus 02/20/2021 5:00PM

In your daily posts about what you consider newsworthy have you ever -- HokieDan95 02/20/2021 3:40PM

It’s been discussed here and in the media ad nauseum -- 111Balz 02/20/2021 3:54PM

40% of NY nursing home cases died! Only one other state had -- Hoogle.com 02/20/2021 5:03PM

I would guess the fatality rate of nursing -- BocaHoo91 02/20/2021 5:43PM

I agree and even at the time it seem like a bad idea, but I still haven’t s -- 111Balz 02/21/2021 09:57AM

I think his career is toast ** -- Hoogle.com 02/20/2021 10:13PM

They see equivalency between biased journalism and for-profit propaganda. -- Molina 02/20/2021 3:31PM

Attacking the messenger has always been a dodge for not wanting to address -- Plano Hoo 02/20/2021 4:07PM

Don't we need a daily death count? ** -- Hokieesith 02/20/2021 3:24PM

I miss those BOMBSHELL giant red circles. ** -- Wahoo Gus 02/20/2021 4:12PM

They scared me. ( I am very sensitive) ** -- Hoogle.com 02/20/2021 5:07PM

Fuck your feelings ;-) ** -- TomGlansAski 02/20/2021 7:41PM

Here you go. -- JMHoo 02/20/2021 4:23PM

Those were always helpful. Why did they stop? ** -- Los Angeles Hoo 02/20/2021 4:07PM

Well because they worked to get Trump out of office! Isn't that obvious? ** -- Seattle .Hoo 02/20/2021 4:28PM

We finally agree! :) ** -- Los Angeles Hoo 02/20/2021 5:09PM

I thought it was the ....... faud that did it? ** -- HoodatB 10/11/2021 9:17PM

Finally an honest lefty post! Chapeau Seattle! ** -- Hoodafan 02/20/2021 5:03PM

It comes down to hypocrisy, but more specifically the right's inability... -- Los Angeles Hoo 02/20/2021 2:43PM

Dude why like be your life so divided? -- DTsBicep 02/20/2021 5:50PM

Good question... -- Los Angeles Hoo 02/20/2021 6:26PM

That's not entirely wrong -- Beerman 02/20/2021 4:37PM

The right does not have clean hands either. ** -- Los Angeles Hoo 02/20/2021 5:56PM

Shocking...maybe we’re actually talking about a characteristic that -- TomGlansAski 02/21/2021 12:32AM

Well that was delusional. ** -- 111Balz 02/20/2021 3:19PM

Yet that’s what many on the right believe. ** -- Hooooooooooooooo 02/20/2021 3:55PM

I know ** -- 111Balz 02/20/2021 4:01PM

Sure, the left has the hypocrisy monopoly. This type of myopia... -- Cav113 02/20/2021 3:13PM

I didn't say the left had a monopoly on hypocrisy. I said that... -- Los Angeles Hoo 02/20/2021 3:20PM

So the right is victim of its virtuous, high-road principles? -- Cav113 02/20/2021 5:02PM

I’d say they are a victim of... -- Los Angeles Hoo 02/20/2021 5:16PM

Senator Al Franken says, what's up yo! ** -- southdenverhoo 02/20/2021 4:55PM

Trump supporter claims political opponents have no shame. ** -- hooshouse 02/20/2021 3:54PM

Partially right... -- Los Angeles Hoo 02/20/2021 4:03PM

I agree. The way Supreme Court seat that wasn’t filled under -- hooshouse 02/20/2021 4:07PM

Again, a perfect example... -- Los Angeles Hoo 02/20/2021 4:15PM

See Lindsey Graham in 2018 vs 2020 -- CMUHoo 02/20/2021 4:46PM

Graham is a hypocrite. No argument from me. ** -- Los Angeles Hoo 02/20/2021 5:17PM

I’d call that a rationalization but it’s more twisted than that ** -- 111Balz 02/20/2021 4:41PM

Yours is a post that... -- Los Angeles Hoo 02/20/2021 6:23PM

Speaking of pretending not to know things, you don't have to pretend to -- VAGentleman05 02/21/2021 08:14AM

"Spin"? It's just political reality, my friend. It's how... -- Los Angeles Hoo 02/21/2021 10:55AM

I'll give you this, LA Hoothat: I don't think you're pretending. ** -- VAGentleman05 02/21/2021 11:21AM

Oh you misunderstood. I know exactly what happened -- 111Balz 02/21/2021 07:24AM

I know you know it, Balz. You just pretend not to know it. ** -- Los Angeles Hoo 02/21/2021 10:56AM

No I don’t. Are you trolling or are you truly brainwashed? ** -- 111Balz 02/21/2021 1:28PM

Everything you just said I could say about the right too -- CMUHoo 02/20/2021 3:01PM

You're misstating hypocrisy, IMO,... -- Los Angeles Hoo 02/20/2021 3:44PM

I'm not factually wrong on anything I said -- CMUHoo 02/20/2021 5:37PM

Your second point is contingent on your first point being true... -- Los Angeles Hoo 02/20/2021 7:01PM

Huh? What laws governing the election were violated? -- CMUHoo 02/20/2021 7:04PM

That you don't know the answer to this is the problem... -- Los Angeles Hoo 02/20/2021 7:17PM

I don't think it's about Venezuelan voting machines -- CMUHoo 02/20/2021 7:26PM

I have posted substantial amounts of information on this board before and.. -- Los Angeles Hoo 02/21/2021 12:33AM

Wow, ok. The Time magazine article doesn't allege any crimes. -- CMUHoo 02/21/2021 11:41AM

This is a far better post than most, so... -- Los Angeles Hoo 02/21/2021 7:25PM

Your refutation of his BS is on target but this guy lives in Fantasyland. -- SixerHoo 02/21/2021 3:59PM

Yep. His posts seem sincere, but he stubbornly ignores facts. -- CMUHoo 02/21/2021 4:04PM

Do the research, right Q? ** -- Seattle .Hoo 02/20/2021 7:20PM

Been there man. Any answer you do get from him on this topic will be a lie. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 02/20/2021 7:12PM

OK LA, so hypocrocy by your enemy causes you to not understand. Clear. -- Lazarus 02/20/2021 2:48PM

You poor little victim. Must be tough surviving when your hero turns out -- Hoodafan 02/20/2021 2:41PM

You guys are getting this projection thing down! -- 111Balz 02/20/2021 3:21PM

Were you looking in a mirror when you said that, Frodo? ** -- WahooRQ 02/20/2021 3:11PM

Speaking of heroes, March 4th is approaching. Are you ready? ** -- Blah 02/20/2021 2:51PM

Their new bullshit narrative is to try and claim that Dem governors did a -- WahooRQ 02/20/2021 2:14PM

Got it RQ. COVID in a state with a Dem gov, bad. Power out in a sunbelt -- Lazarus 02/20/2021 2:45PM

Yeah. Well, the weather is bad. ** -- Hokieesith 02/20/2021 3:22PM