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hoolstoptheheels

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Discrimination is all about broad generalizations. You have certain views


About religion, and thus appear to decide it's ok to discriminate on that basis, in certain cases where you find the religion particularly objectionable. I'm an atheist myself and I shake my head at times at the idea of people dedicating large chunks of their lives to ancient fairy tales, but I also think spiritual freedom is indispensable to democracy. Freedom flat out doesn't exist without it. Obviously, banning only one religion from a nation in immigration policy is a violation of the Establishment Clause. But this is also about your own biases against religion.

White supremacy is no less a medieval philosophy than Islam, Judaism, or Christianity, or paganism, or whatever. In fact it is often rooted in its own mythology, such as the myth of the superior Aryan race coopted by Nazis. See, I personally think it's all the same. We live in a world changing more rapidly than humans have ever experienced. Side effect of the info age, where technological advances keep accelerating the pace of change, bringing a lot of inequality in who keeps up and who falls behind (at a lot of levels from the individual to the regional).

Fundamentalism of all kinds is a reaction to that. Whether nationalism creating a mythological imaginary past for Brexiters or Wahabbi Islam creating an imaginary past Caliphate for ISIS. Or White Supremacists with their own racial myths. Different backwards philosophies appeal to different sets of insecure people. Religion is just one choice. I'm not sure why White Supremacy should be less objectionable just because its roots are not always in one of the three major faiths. We're less concerned about it because its roots are in bullshit mythology about racial superiority? Or paganism?

I don't care, The rise of religious fundamentalism is a different side of the same coin as nationalist and racist fundamentalism. No offense, but your attitude gives rise to Trumpism IMO. Take Cville - people made the effort to travel all the way to Cville to march under Nazi and KKK banners. They didn't just find these dirtbags in their midst. They traveled to be with them, but there were "very fine people" doing that. But the 99% of Muslims just trying to make it through the day, and who just happen to be in close proximity to Islamic fundamentalists in their midst are collectively guilty for the actions of the scumbags.

We would do much better to put our individual biases aside (yours is about religious mythology vs other terrible, violent, backwards philosophies) and view fundamentalism more broadly. At their core, they're all the same.

[Post edited by hoolstoptheheels at 05/05/2019 09:49AM]

(In response to this post by BocaHoo91)

Posted: 05/05/2019 at 09:28AM



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