It was low turn out in some places, but some of the critical states Trump

got more votes than Romney and the overall turnout was even higher. PA for example, Trump got almost 10% more votes than Romney while Clinton was off Obama's total by about 5%. There were about 5% more total voters in PA this election than 2012.

On the other hand, California was way, way off in terms of total votes. In 2012 over 13 million votes were cast in CA, with Obama getting 7.8 and Romney with 4.8. In 2016 there were barely 9 million votes cast with Clinton getting less than 5.5 million.

In 2012 there were almost 129 million votes cast with Obama/Romney getting 127 million of that (Johnson got 1.2 million as a 32rd party)

In 2016 it looks like right about 126 million votes cast, with Clinton / Trump taking 120 million of those votes (Johnson will finish with just about 4 million).

That huge drop in the vote totals in CA is more than the fall off everywhere else. So apart from apathy in CA, move voters came out overall in 2016 than 2012.

[Post edited by RML Hoos at 11/10/2016 5:35PM]

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Posted: 11/10/2016 at 5:12PM

What this election result really means -- Da Ali G 11/10/2016 4:36PM

They are so cute when they are young and naive. Sure, Trump -- HoosWillWin 11/10/2016 5:27PM

I would love to see this come true, but there's no way -- Cold Hoober Hoo 11/10/2016 5:07PM

Please do not call it a "profession"; it's a fleecing ** -- rdm 11/10/2016 5:12PM

I only wish you were correct - term limitations! -- rdm 11/10/2016 4:51PM

I think mccain and romney both got more votes than trump -- KCHoo 11/10/2016 4:44PM

Should have picked an African American running mate for Hills...bilingual -- Tuckahokie 11/10/2016 5:14PM

Yes. The media narrative is really missing this. -- Shenhoo 11/10/2016 4:47PM

It was low turn out in some places, but some of the critical states Trump -- RML Hoos 11/10/2016 5:12PM

The more I look, the vote totals in CA are shockingly low. -- RML Hoos 11/10/2016 5:41PM

Florida is another good example. In 2012 Obama win Florida -- RML Hoos 11/10/2016 5:19PM

One more is North Carolina. Hillary was within about 15K -- RML Hoos 11/10/2016 5:27PM

Somewhat related. The state with the biggest change -- Shenhoo 11/10/2016 9:18PM

No, Shen, NO! -- rdm 11/10/2016 4:56PM

Cookie is from the NPR intelligentsia. ** -- Trigon 11/10/2016 6:56PM

But nothing like Rove's classic melfdown on the Sexual Harrassment Network ** -- Shenhoo 11/10/2016 8:24PM

That's Mr. Rancid-Cheeto-dusted Superfund site President to you! ** -- Hood 11/10/2016 4:54PM

Nuther Newbie!! ** -- MSGHoofan 11/10/2016 4:43PM

Tell that to all the incumbents re-elected ** -- hooshouse 11/10/2016 4:39PM

No. Almost every incumbent won re-election. ** -- Shenhoo 11/10/2016 4:38PM

It was low turn out in some places, but some of the critical states Trump

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