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What's this?

You’re just incomplete denial. As well as fantasyland.

Four the fourth time in this thread, maybe, virtually all of us agree that the Supreme Court will in Trump’s favor on this.
You’re saying things about the constitution that aren’t true and you’re getting pushback on that and that alone

(In response to this post by Los Angeles Hoo)

Posted: 02/12/2024 at 1:49PM

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