Actually, that's 290 additional ICU. ** -- 81_Hokie 01/07/2022 08:21AM
How about doing the math on with/from hospitalizations? ** -- jpmHoo 01/07/2022 07:22AM
Why would hospitalizations "with covid" increase if covid is not the -- BocaHoo91 01/07/2022 08:50AM
I'm sure there ARE cases where people check in for other reasons -- CAVern 01/07/2022 08:57AM
Hospitalizations ARE the measure of serious illness -- jpmHoo 01/07/2022 09:02AM
I will concede that the hospitalization and death numbers are likely -- CAVern 01/07/2022 09:34AM
I said nothing about vaccination. But I will reiterate that a society ... -- jpmHoo 01/07/2022 09:42AM
You constantly campaign against the vax so i figured it was implied -- CAVern 01/07/2022 10:14AM
Meanwhile vaccine zealots are arguing that the CMS vax requirement for... -- jpmHoo 01/07/2022 10:28AM
Ok - but explain something to me. if "they" require a medicare recipient -- CAVern 01/07/2022 10:31AM
Biden appears to think it's fine for someone sweeping the floors for ... -- jpmHoo 01/07/2022 10:35AM
That's a weird whatabout. that person is not imminently going to die -- CAVern 01/07/2022 10:45AM
I'm sure it would look a different with this variant -- Capital City Hoo 01/07/2022 08:17AM
I have a hs friend who was in the hospital for an artery blockage -- Cold Hoober Hoo 01/07/2022 08:37AM
I remember reading about the 290 car pileup that put all those people in -- 81_Hokie 01/07/2022 08:23AM
290 independent people, no symptoms, same facility, ALL tested positive? ** -- CAVern 01/07/2022 08:28AM
I was trying to show how ridiculous it sounds to try to explain the -- 81_Hokie 01/07/2022 08:30AM
Surely they can produce that data. Though one wonders if... -- jpmHoo 01/07/2022 08:38AM
Yes, exactly one wonders... you. Are we back on the conspiracy theory of -- 81_Hokie 01/07/2022 08:42AM
COVID hospitalizations decimate hospital operating margins -- jpmHoo 01/07/2022 08:46AM
Funny that you want data from data from CAVern below but you leap to... not -- 81_Hokie 01/07/2022 09:14AM
You're hopelessly clueless if you can't understand that lower revenues and -- jpmHoo 01/07/2022 09:26AM
What evidence do you have for overbilling or manufacturing costs for -- 81_Hokie 01/07/2022 09:27AM
PPE and travel nurses, among other things, aren't "manufactured costs" -- jpmHoo 01/07/2022 09:40AM
Ok - my bad. will drink some more coffee ** -- CAVern 01/07/2022 08:32AM
I get that it sucks for docs to gear up in PPE and for hospitals to isolate -- jpmHoo 01/07/2022 08:28AM
Ok. We’ll focus on the fact that in 2020 American life expectancy declined -- hoolstoptheheels 01/07/2022 08:38AM
We're talking about 2022. Didn't you celebrate history enough yesterday? ** -- jpmHoo 01/07/2022 08:39AM
Would you have add supported vaccination in 2020? ** -- TomGlansAski 01/07/2022 08:50AM
Was that during the 2 weeks to flatten the curve or until there's a vaccine -- jpmHoo 01/07/2022 08:54AM
A broad-based effort to get as many people vaccinated as possible as -- TomGlansAski 01/07/2022 08:56AM
Hard to take any vaccination effort seriously that focus so heavily... -- jpmHoo 01/07/2022 09:00AM
We’ve been through this before multiple times. No need to go through -- TomGlansAski 01/07/2022 09:49AM
Risk-benefit analyses must be beyond those with medical degrees -- jpmHoo 01/07/2022 10:11AM
Like I said, we've been through this before. And yes, doctors are better -- TomGlansAski 01/07/2022 10:16AM
Which is why their advice behind a closed door is often different ... -- jpmHoo 01/07/2022 10:22AM
Mandates for medicaid recipients but outlaw vaccine passports for cruise -- 81_Hokie 01/07/2022 09:29AM
Since cruises are mostly populated by Medicare recipients... -- jpmHoo 01/07/2022 09:46AM
The Federal government is doing what it can to mandate, or at least what -- 81_Hokie 01/07/2022 10:30AM
Bullshit. The lack of a Medicaid/Medicare requirement is purely political -- jpmHoo 01/07/2022 10:41AM
It was due to COVID. History may not have been your best subject, -- hoolstoptheheels 01/07/2022 08:50AM
You're free to wear your N95 by yourself in your car. I'll continue to LMAO ** -- jpmHoo 01/07/2022 08:52AM
Glad you are able to derive such entertainment from your imagination. -- hoolstoptheheels 01/07/2022 09:03AM
I found it particularly hilarious seeing masked drivers blow through.... -- jpmHoo 01/07/2022 09:05AM
How wonderful for you. You are just such an observer of life’s little -- hoolstoptheheels 01/07/2022 09:09AM
Also getting the stink eye from some masked geezer in line at Starbucks -- jpmHoo 01/07/2022 09:12AM
And down, down, down the sinkhole of irrelevance we go. ** -- hoolstoptheheels 01/07/2022 09:16AM
Now do smokers, drinkers, fat people, etc. -- jpmHoo 01/07/2022 08:19AM
On many plans today smokers pay a pretty significant premium -- Capital City Hoo 01/07/2022 09:13AM
There's decades of data on the effects of smoking on medical costs -- jpmHoo 01/07/2022 09:31AM
I think you're wrong, but hey, its your right -- Capital City Hoo 01/07/2022 10:27AM
So I assume you're cool with a sliding premium scale for obesity -- jpmHoo 01/07/2022 10:29AM
In theory I'm absolutely fine with it -- Capital City Hoo 01/07/2022 10:34AM
The takeaway is that vaccinated people are not getting serious covid -- CAVern 01/07/2022 08:04AM
You can't draw those conclusions from anecdotes without producing the data -- jpmHoo 01/07/2022 08:26AM
It's not anecdotal. vaccines ARE preventing serious illness. your antivax -- CAVern 01/07/2022 08:29AM
Maybe but people wouldn't be freaking out if they actually believed that -- jpmHoo 01/07/2022 08:35AM
See - there you are again. "no protection against omicron infection" - -- CAVern 01/07/2022 08:41AM
And some studies showing negative efficacy among the fully vaccinated -- jpmHoo 01/07/2022 08:48AM
I will say - i hope we get BETTER vaccines soon. but people should take -- CAVern 01/07/2022 08:31AM
Yeah! And whether they're right handed or left handed. ** -- VAGentleman05 01/07/2022 07:25AM
Much easier for docs and admins to whine about having to follow protocols -- jpmHoo 01/07/2022 07:26AM