don't I? Just because I don't agree with most of the absurdity we see on this board everyday? I'm here to give you a glimpse into the rightie perspective, and how and why some of us view things the way we do. You can listen to that, learn from it, refute it with facts and logic, ignore it, or dismiss it with baseless attacks as so many here do (and you're somewhat doing with that comment) because it doesn't fit their desired political narrative and the leftie circle jerk desired here by so many lefties that simply try to shout down opposing views. If you're only looking for folks that agree with, or harrumph you, I would suggest that's the opposite of someone looking for "serious (or honest) conversation".

But none of what you seem to consider "serious conversation" will change that being the rightie perspective and why some of us view things the way we do. Again, your choice what to do with that and in your response if any. If you want to persuade us to see it your way, I would recommend a different approach.

You could also start with re-reading my post, since in no way did I call Klobuchar "extreme". I mentioned her, along with Hickenlooper, because thus far, those two are about the only clowns on the bus I could consider voting for over Trump. (a few more I will reserve judgement until we see more of their campaigns, or they have no chance at all, and a few that could still get on board I would consider, but haven't made it clear they will run).