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25Charlie
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Curious as to why Obama did not ban the sale of bump stocks (link)
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Tuckahokie
10/05/2017 08:30AM
Reverse psychology? If he's agin it, Pubs are for it.... **
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aint2Hokie4me
10/05/2017 1:53PM
It probably is the single best way to get trump to support it **
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KCHoo
10/05/2017 1:55PM
Forget the past. Who here is against banning them now? **
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LAHOOters
10/05/2017 11:19AM
Hatch, Rubio and another GOPer were quoted
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81_Hokie
10/05/2017 12:12PM
It wouldn't surprise me a bit if such a ban goes through. Then we can
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Hoodafan
10/05/2017 12:17PM
Who gives a fuck if we've never heard of it? We've heard and seen the type
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hooshouse
10/05/2017 12:33PM
Simmer down House. I have no issue with a ban on those and even think it
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Hoodafan
10/05/2017 12:53PM
Seems Paddock ammased his arsenal legally. Would he have bump stocks if
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LAHOOters
10/05/2017 12:58PM
If they outlaw bump stocks, only outlaws will have bump stocks. Bump
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Hoo TV
10/05/2017 2:21PM
Sure...but I suspect a motivated machine shop could produce one **
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Tuckahokie
10/05/2017 11:53AM
Great argument for a lawless society. **
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Chuck Taylor
10/05/2017 1:34PM
You don't need one to bump fire most semi-automatics.
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Hokie5150
10/05/2017 12:46PM
Yet sales are going briskly for manufactured bump stocks this week.
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WahooMatt05
10/05/2017 1:20PM
GOP congress moving quickly to pass legislation to crack down on bump stock
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Hoo TV
10/05/2017 2:16PM
And this surprises you? It's unlikely that the law with include
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Hokie5150
10/05/2017 1:41PM
Surprises me? I guess it shouldn't. Disheartens me, yes.
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WahooMatt05
10/05/2017 1:47PM
Isn't EVERY law simply a deterrant? **
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LAHOOters
10/05/2017 12:43PM
Yes, if murder wasn't illegal it would be rampant.
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hoothat
10/05/2017 1:23PM
A motivated person could also create a car bomb. But we don't
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BocaHoo91
10/05/2017 12:14PM
Sure but I suspect a motivated meth dealer could cook some **
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Beerman
10/05/2017 11:57AM
Only really need a programmed 3D printer or CNC machine. **
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SchmHoo
10/05/2017 11:57AM
I talked to my ESL teacher.
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hoothat
10/05/2017 12:42PM
Couldn't leave it alone, I see.
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SchmHoo
10/05/2017 1:15PM
I wasn't wrong. More than one bullet does not leave the chamber
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hoothat
10/05/2017 1:20PM
Doesn't technically make it auto, but it effectively does. And technically
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LAHOOters
10/05/2017 1:37PM
NRA apparently agrees with you **
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KCHoo
10/05/2017 2:29PM
Wrong. Still a semi auto. One pull, one round.
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25Charlie
10/05/2017 1:43PM
Are you saying it doesn't effectively? **
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LAHOOters
10/05/2017 1:46PM
Yeah, but I never debated that.
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hoothat
10/05/2017 1:43PM
Are you serious? I could write a law in 10 seconds that would take care of
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LAHOOters
10/05/2017 1:50PM
That is extremely vague...
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hoothat
10/05/2017 1:52PM
Why is that even a "but." What relevance does it have to his comment? **
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KCHoo
10/05/2017 11:56AM
OK KC...sure, without ifs, ands, or buts. Problem solved. **
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Tuckahokie
10/05/2017 12:02PM
Hold on. You claim the Muslim was coming for your guns and accessories and
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hooshouse
10/05/2017 10:39AM
Seriously. He's coming for their guns until he isn't :) **
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Beerman
10/05/2017 10:53AM
I don't own any guns...sorry to dissapoint...I only cling to my religion **
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Tuckahokie
10/05/2017 10:52AM
The ignorant always do. **
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Hoocinogenic
10/05/2017 5:45PM
I thought you clung to life's proverbial empty trophy case? **
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WahooRQ
10/05/2017 11:07AM
Only if this is a trophy case (pic)
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Tuckahokie
10/05/2017 11:22AM
The same reason we won't ban them now. Face it the NRA and the terrorists
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Lazarus
10/05/2017 10:17AM
I saw a guy with a gun in his holster while carrying an infant this weekend
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WahooMatt05
10/05/2017 10:41AM
You can tell a lot about the person by how the firearm is carried
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757
10/05/2017 12:37PM
Thanks for that perspective **
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WahooMatt05
10/05/2017 12:52PM
You were scared of a man holding a baby? **
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hoothat
10/05/2017 12:02PM
Interesting. I hate guns and have no desire to be around them, but I too
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Hoodafan
10/05/2017 11:05AM
I would think more people would be concerned about concealed carry than
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Hokie5150
10/05/2017 11:53AM
Yep. But I'm even less worried about legal concealed carry. Those require
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Hoodafan
10/05/2017 12:12PM
Anyone who isn't a cop or security guard and feels the need to carry a gun
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WahooRQ
10/05/2017 1:38PM
Meh. It's extremely easy to get a concealed carry permit...at least in VA.
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Hokie5150
10/05/2017 12:29PM
IMHO, civilians who open carry are mostly doing it to troll others
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WahooRQ
10/05/2017 11:28AM
I know a disabled man who wears one.
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hoothat
10/05/2017 12:02PM
While I understand that thought, and FTR despite living in Trumplandia and
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Hoodafan
10/05/2017 12:00PM
I do think it's different in places like west Texas or Montana where guns
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WahooRQ
10/05/2017 12:27PM
Yeah the open carry long gun assholes are definitely trolling **
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Cold Hoober Hoo
10/05/2017 1:17PM
I know a cop is trained to use a gun
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WahooMatt05
10/05/2017 11:15AM
FTR wasn't criticizing how you felt, especially since it was my initial
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Hoodafan
10/05/2017 11:44AM
Nuts and terrorists are equally free to buy holsters
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111Balz
10/05/2017 11:11AM
Lots of terrorists open carry in restaurants... **
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hoothat
10/05/2017 12:12PM
And the Columbine kids routinely open carried at Shoney's. **
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Hoodafan
10/05/2017 12:26PM
I know right. Can you believe that crap? **
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hoothat
10/05/2017 12:27PM
I bet the discussion would be very different right now if the shooter
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HoosWillWin
10/05/2017 10:34AM
Really? Like after the Dallas BLM Shooting? **
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hoothat
10/05/2017 12:13PM
Everything is racist. Yeah. **
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Hokieesith
10/05/2017 10:52AM
If only he'd been a Mohhamad? You wouldn't hear a bunch of GOP cowards
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Lazarus
10/05/2017 10:46AM
Oh they'd want action all right. Not-a-ban Muslim ban action! **
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Beerman
10/05/2017 10:52AM
Talk about a narrative change...evidently the turd had previously tried to
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Tuckahokie
10/05/2017 10:50AM
Looks like it was a music festival, not a rap concert
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WahooMatt05
10/05/2017 11:37AM
So all that proves is that he didn't do it because he hates country music **
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111Balz
10/05/2017 10:59AM
It actually proves nothing.
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hoothat
10/05/2017 12:15PM
I can think of no better places to be armed than bars or churches. :D**
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Seattle .Hoo
10/05/2017 10:23AM
Seattle, another reason, why we -- or most of us -- read all your posts. +1 **
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Lazarus
10/05/2017 10:26AM
Because they likely were unaware of the entire issue
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Old Dorms Rule!
10/05/2017 10:10AM
Everyone on TV is an expert on bumpstocks now.
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25Charlie
10/05/2017 11:11AM
Really? Posters here swore up and down that it was only one trigger pull
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hoothat
10/05/2017 12:24PM
Not sure what you'e talking about
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Old Dorms Rule!
10/05/2017 12:57PM
So the trigger is being pulled for every discharge? **
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hoothat
10/05/2017 12:58PM
Yeah, but the device uses the recoil of the weapon itself to do it
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Old Dorms Rule!
10/05/2017 1:02PM
Never debated that.
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hoothat
10/05/2017 1:06PM
Pull the trigger or push the stock. 1 = 1
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25Charlie
10/05/2017 1:31PM
Exactly. If anything it will decrease accuracy.
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hoothat
10/05/2017 1:35PM
Yep. I watched a video a while back with a competition shooter going up
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Hokie5150
10/05/2017 2:19PM
Yet another reason for them to be illegal
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Old Dorms Rule!
10/05/2017 2:34PM
I don't recall. Competition shooters are amazing, though. Some
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Hokie5150
10/05/2017 2:37PM
Same rate of fire with or without bumpstock **
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25Charlie
10/05/2017 1:38PM
Yeah, I know. Debated that yesterday.
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hoothat
10/05/2017 1:45PM
Maybe - but I doubt it and certainly not for long
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Old Dorms Rule!
10/05/2017 1:44PM
Dexterity.
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hoothat
10/05/2017 1:48PM
Still not sure what your point is
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Old Dorms Rule!
10/05/2017 1:28PM
I never said they should be legal.
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hoothat
10/05/2017 1:34PM
Give me a day or so and I could come up with the wording
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Old Dorms Rule!
10/05/2017 1:38PM
Cool, I would honestly like to see it.
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hoothat
10/05/2017 1:46PM
Same here. Got my first real fun at age 10.
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Shenhoo
10/05/2017 10:58AM
10 for me, too; bolt-action single-shot .22 from my grandfather
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Old Dorms Rule!
10/05/2017 11:11AM
I grew up really poor on the national forest boundary.
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Shenhoo
10/05/2017 11:14AM
Re: I grew up really poor on the national forest boundary.
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Old Dorms Rule!
10/05/2017 1:59PM
We are a republic, not a monarchy........for starters.
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Chuck Taylor
10/05/2017 10:05AM
So wait a minute...the administration took on Healthcare and the financial
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Tuckahokie
10/05/2017 10:16AM
Your question was, why didn't Obama ban bump stocks, was it not?
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Chuck Taylor
10/05/2017 10:28AM
That's the accessory du jour (actually all week)...but it proves symbolic
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Tuckahokie
10/05/2017 10:32AM
It proves you don't understand or want to understand...................
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Chuck Taylor
10/05/2017 10:55AM
Wow. You're doubling down on this nonsense. No CONGRESS
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111Balz
10/05/2017 10:24AM
Because everything is always the Dems' fault? **
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Beerman
10/05/2017 09:49AM
Now isn't the time to politicize this. Thoughts and prayers. ;) **
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Seattle .Hoo
10/05/2017 09:29AM
I realize it is a joke, but the really ironic thing is that the right
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HoosWillWin
10/05/2017 10:14AM
Your gal Hillary broke that seal on day one **
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Tuckahokie
10/05/2017 09:32AM
Hillary? Oh yeah. Didn't she run for President one time and lose? **
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Seattle .Hoo
10/05/2017 09:50AM
Just once? :>) **
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Tuckahokie
10/05/2017 09:51AM
In the before time. In the long long ago. **
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Seattle .Hoo
10/05/2017 10:25AM
Maybe you should take some time off...... **
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111Balz
10/05/2017 09:36AM
The answer is obvious and sad. Obama didn't want to take on the NRA.
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graycalhoo
10/05/2017 09:23AM
I don't think that is true.
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DanTheFan
10/05/2017 09:36AM
While I think your final point has merit, in this case
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111Balz
10/05/2017 09:35AM
If only BO had had a filibuster-proof majority in Congress... **
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Sabremetrician
10/05/2017 10:17AM
Yes. If only.
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DanTheFan
10/05/2017 5:09PM
You don't think he tried?
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WahooMatt05
10/05/2017 09:34AM
No, he didn't try hard enough. Obama could have used his bully pulpit a
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graycalhoo
10/05/2017 09:39AM
I agree. I also agree that you have to spend your political capital on
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Seattle .Hoo
10/05/2017 10:21AM
Do you think bump stocks should be legal? Wasn't this guy's
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BocaHoo91
10/05/2017 09:03AM
Do you think this guy wouldn't have used them had they been illegal?
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Hokie5150
10/05/2017 09:42AM
And no, I think he wouldn't have used them BECAUSE they're
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BocaHoo91
10/05/2017 10:19AM
Should there be virtually no restrictions on anyone possessing the level of
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BocaHoo91
10/05/2017 10:01AM
Short of banning all semi-automatic weapons, there's really
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Hokie5150
10/05/2017 10:05AM
Can't completely eliminate risk is such a bogus argument. You can't
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81_Hokie
10/05/2017 11:17AM
It not that you can't eliminate all the risk, it's that a ban won't
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Hokie5150
10/05/2017 11:51AM
Bait and switch... you said above that "not a way to completely eliminate
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81_Hokie
10/05/2017 5:20PM
As I said, it's window dressing. Go ahead and ban them. Feel good
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Hokie5150
10/05/2017 5:25PM
Exactly. Reactionaries wanting to fix something
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hoothat
10/05/2017 12:27PM
That's where I am, but I'm afraid you're right that it's unrealistic for
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BocaHoo91
10/05/2017 10:08AM
Ever is a long time as demographics change
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KCHoo
10/05/2017 1:06PM
Sure, ban anything over 10. It's window dressing and won't really
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Hokie5150
10/05/2017 10:29AM
Which is why I get back to semi-auto rifles. I'm not as concerned
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BocaHoo91
10/05/2017 10:41AM
I'm not a fan of such registries, but I believe they are inevitable. I
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Hokie5150
10/05/2017 10:53AM
I'm equally curious as to why he didn't overturn Heller.
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WahooRQ
10/05/2017 09:00AM
I don't get where you are going with this.
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WahooMatt05
10/05/2017 08:41AM
Because Breitbart and Kellyanne Conway said it.
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DanTheFan
10/05/2017 09:18AM
Definitely a talking point to obsfucate that the current admin can take
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THECZAR
10/05/2017 09:35AM
So it is not true because since it was not mentioned in one of the Pravdas? **
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Tuckahokie
10/05/2017 09:31AM
It is my RIGHT to be able to shoot 432 deer in under 5 minutes **
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FfxStationHokie
10/05/2017 08:55AM
In 2010 the Dems held all the cards (both houses and POTUS)...and now the
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Tuckahokie
10/05/2017 08:46AM
Nice strawman. smh. See CZAR below. But thanks for reminding us
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111Balz
10/05/2017 09:18AM
It's called leadership and neither party provided it
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Faz d. Hoo
10/05/2017 08:53AM
WADR, the Dems were taking on healthcare and financial reform in 2009-10.
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WahooRQ
10/05/2017 09:08AM
You can make excuses until the cows come home but that doesn't
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Faz d. Hoo
10/05/2017 10:25AM
There is some truth to this
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WahooMatt05
10/05/2017 08:59AM
Sandy Hook happened in 2012
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WahooMatt05
10/05/2017 08:51AM
Sometimes people forget to read the WHOLE article they link
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111Balz
10/05/2017 08:45AM
So Holder and Obama are using semantics as a smoke screen? **
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Tuckahokie
10/05/2017 08:47AM
No, they used the law as it was written. An automatic firearm (which is
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Hokie5150
10/05/2017 08:58AM
Umm, I was told to speak to my ESL teacher for saying that**
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hoothat
10/05/2017 12:18PM
The sturm and drang all week has been that the evil cabal of GOP/NRA
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Tuckahokie
10/05/2017 09:05AM
Und Tuck. Und. **
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hoodeyo
10/05/2017 2:22PM
You are pointing out your own ignorance on how laws and separation of
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WahooRQ
10/05/2017 09:15AM
Other than one again showing what you get when you parrot
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111Balz
10/05/2017 09:22AM
Yep, the parroting thing gets kind of obvious.
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Chuck Taylor
10/05/2017 09:51AM
It really doesn't matter. A ban won't stop anyone intend on
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Hokie5150
10/05/2017 09:14AM
No one is saying this is Trump's fault. They are saying, lets take action
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THECZAR
10/05/2017 09:10AM
Trump? Perhaps not...GOP/NRA? That's where nearly all of the blame is
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Tuckahokie
10/05/2017 09:15AM
For lack of effective gun laws? Nobody is completely blaming the
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111Balz
10/05/2017 09:20AM
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