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I'm not defending the purism of Trump voters at all.

It's ugly out there. I do defend the inclination to vote anti-establishment however. And object to the notion they are idiots voting against their interests. The establishment has failed and failed and failed them (us) again. David Brooks and his ilk created the conditions for Trump. This is middlebrow pseudo-intellectual bublism punditry at it's finest. Not worthy of respect at all imo.

There is something going on here that's worth coming to grips with. Explain Trump, Sanders (who also wins), Brexit or the state of European politics in the absence of the record of the current status quo over the last 20-30 years. People are rightfully pissed.

Yes. Trump's a fluke that wouldn't have happened if things didn't break just right. But the fact he was in position to take advantage of it tells us something.

[Post edited by hoodeyo at 01/28/2017 6:21PM]

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Posted: 01/28/2017 at 6:02PM

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A Republican explains TD. -- Lazarus 01/28/2017 07:29AM

He still doesn't get this is a reaction against the 'sunny faith' -- hoodeyo 01/28/2017 12:51PM

I don't share your sunny faith in the purism of Trump's voters. -- WahooRQ 01/28/2017 5:42PM

I'm not defending the purism of Trump voters at all. -- hoodeyo 01/28/2017 6:02PM

Knee-jerk anti-establishmentism "protest voting" is its own brand of idiocy -- WahooRQ 01/28/2017 7:03PM

Probably not. I just think David Brooks is a chump. ** -- hoodeyo 01/28/2017 7:26PM

I think it was a reaction against Hillary Clinton more than anything ** -- wahoo138 01/28/2017 1:39PM

In the general election. Voters objected to Clinton personally, -- hoodeyo 01/28/2017 1:47PM

Yeah you've dissected this thoroughly here -- wahoo138 01/28/2017 2:03PM

This is what you get for not having and implementing -- Hokieesith 01/28/2017 10:58AM

Hoo is this "you" to whom you refer? -- WaxHoo 01/28/2017 12:42PM

That pronoun would work even better. It's fine by me. ** -- Hokieesith 01/28/2017 12:50PM

Dayum! :-) ** -- WaxHoo 01/28/2017 12:56PM

Trump doesn't have a solution either. -- Beerman 01/28/2017 12:19PM

I never said he did. But no one did anything for years. -- Hokieesith 01/28/2017 12:40PM

The Fed keeping interest rates at near 0% clearly helped keep GDP above 1% ** -- Wahoo Ron 01/28/2017 1:34PM

Reagan was a tariff guy. W used tariffs in steel, Obama in tires. -- hoodeyo 01/28/2017 12:32PM

What they're talking about isn't going to affect -- wahoo138 01/28/2017 12:52PM

It is definitely more extreme. Just meant as a reminder -- hoodeyo 01/28/2017 1:10PM

Bombast is what got him elected -- Beerman 01/28/2017 12:42PM

Still, I don't think that's new. -- hoodeyo 01/28/2017 1:03PM

The POTUS his first week in office -- wahoo138 01/28/2017 1:32PM

David Brooks is to Republican as David Horowitz is to Democrat ** -- Wahoo Ron 01/28/2017 10:53AM

Brooks is sane ** -- WaxHoo 01/28/2017 12:45PM

I think he'd agree. He was when Reagan was president though. -- hoolstoptheheels 01/28/2017 11:34AM

Reasonable, intelligent views. Time to kick him out of GOP. ** -- hokie in cville 01/28/2017 11:09AM

And the same paper backs it up with a real news story -- Wahoo Ron 01/28/2017 10:21AM

What's your point, if you have one? ** -- WaxHoo 01/28/2017 12:46PM

The Republican party today is -- wahoo138 01/28/2017 09:45AM

In other words, they've become Democrats. ** -- Hokie5150 01/28/2017 10:16AM

I partly disagree. The latter class votes against the Democratic Party -- Hoogle.com 01/28/2017 10:03AM

Trump owns you guys, more despair from the defeated ** -- TomKazanski 01/28/2017 09:38AM

& when will you get your heads out of your asses?? If you voted for Trump -- graycalhoo 01/28/2017 12:04PM

Well, there is a reason for that. -- Hokieesith 01/28/2017 2:09PM

You answer your own question -- Beerman 01/28/2017 3:32PM

Lol. Thanks for the laugh. ** -- Hokieesith 01/28/2017 5:13PM

I don't think it's made up -- wahoo138 01/28/2017 3:02PM

Iran is interesting. The citizenry is Shia and probably more likely -- hoodeyo 01/28/2017 4:09PM

With friends like the Saudis how can you go wrong. -- walkthecorner 01/28/2017 4:42PM

This man is taking us not back to the days of isolationism,but imperialism? -- Wahoo Ron 01/28/2017 1:14PM

One week ** -- wahoo138 01/28/2017 1:33PM

Ask Nieto if he feels owned today -- wahoo138 01/28/2017 10:20AM

You're the one who's Trump's bitch. Speak for yourself. ** -- WahooRQ 01/28/2017 10:04AM

...but Tom is not the one bitchin' ** -- Tuckahokie 01/28/2017 10:16AM

TD is just doin' what Putin tells him to do. ** -- aint2Hokie4me 01/28/2017 08:46AM

Curious...how does a wall "lock in" more illegals than it will keep -- Tuckahokie 01/28/2017 07:53AM

Becuase there has been a net migration out -- 111Balz 01/28/2017 10:29AM

I think the wall is moot. I don't think it will ever be built. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 01/28/2017 09:41AM

Re: Curious...how does a wall -- Lazarus 01/28/2017 09:38AM

The only thing he's done so far that isn't just talk -- wahoo138 01/28/2017 09:54AM

Should have read your post first. Agree with these points. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 01/28/2017 09:42AM

Meh, just drivel. About what you would expect from the WP ** -- Exhoolate 01/28/2017 07:44AM

News for the D.C. bubble ** -- Tuckahokie 01/28/2017 08:36AM

More for educated and principled conservatives..what's left of them anyways ** -- WahooRQ 01/28/2017 08:44AM

Literally hundreds of those in and around D.C. ** -- Tuckahokie 01/28/2017 08:47AM

A few who remember when being conservative meant you believed in free -- WahooRQ 01/28/2017 09:07AM

And nothing liberal about today's democrat. -- Hokieesith 01/28/2017 11:21AM

The one thing we agree on is that todays Repub party isn't conservative -- DAMHoo 01/28/2017 09:19AM

A very large percentage of the 63 million spineless cowards are -- Tuckahokie 01/28/2017 09:16AM

Oh, please. The largest demographic that voted for this clown was people -- WahooRQ 01/28/2017 09:22AM

Both candidates were terrible (and still are) and I expect a majority -- AlexHoo 01/28/2017 09:28AM

How many presidents have left office with a 60% approval rating? ** -- 111Balz 01/28/2017 10:33AM

Reagan and Clinton -- Wahoo Ron 01/28/2017 11:51AM

He'd have cleaned Trump's clock ** -- 111Balz 01/28/2017 2:14PM

Who cares? How long have they been polling? ** -- Hokieesith 01/28/2017 10:56AM

Although that 60% approval is probably high he has always been unsusal -- AlexHoo 01/28/2017 10:50AM

It went up sharply when America saw their choices of successor...hence my -- WahooRQ 01/28/2017 12:14PM

IIRC, Obama left with a 60% approval rating and would have been reelected -- WahooRQ 01/28/2017 10:03AM

I know Clinton was awful on many levels, but so was (is) Trump -- AlexHoo 01/28/2017 11:04AM

Well said. It was a "pick the less worse" choice. But, I must say, -- Hoogle.com 01/28/2017 09:49AM

I agree with most of that, Mexican wall, it seems could help in some places ** -- AlexHoo 01/28/2017 11:17AM