Guys, there are no good options for health care at the present (staying -- Hillhoo 08/05/2016 06:01AM
Decent analysis, although why the focus on "medicaid for all" -- 111Balz 08/04/2016 5:52PM
For a guy who has his insurance provided for him - you sure are fine with -- Mr Wahoo 08/04/2016 8:41PM
WADR that's not a fair representation. I'm in the same boat as you but the -- Hoodafan 08/05/2016 10:21AM
Or stop treating employer-sponsored health benefits as non-taxable -- Toolie92 08/04/2016 8:08PM
I support universal health care - basic and catstrophic - -- 111Balz 08/04/2016 8:13PM
This is where I am, except how to define catastrophic? -- JohnHoo2 08/05/2016 09:43AM
$5K per individual, $10K per family. -- BocaHoo91 08/05/2016 11:19AM
All good questions ** -- 111Balz 08/05/2016 10:23AM
I do too, but I am also an incrementalist -- Toolie92 08/04/2016 10:54PM
I completely agree with you. ** -- 111Balz 08/05/2016 07:03AM
I agree with this scenario in most respects. -- Hoocinogenic 08/05/2016 12:24AM
Health care is a commodity that works best as a limited resource -- dajoka004 08/04/2016 8:56PM
FWIW,in economic terms,'demand' for free healthcare is effectively infinite -- EAPo 08/05/2016 07:28AM
Yep...there's the rub... -- Moneyshot 08/05/2016 08:49AM
And advances in medicine will continue to make those -- BocaHoo91 08/05/2016 11:24AM
Well that is one of the crazier things I have read here -- 111Balz 08/05/2016 06:59AM
That's not what "limited resource" means -- MaizeAndBlueWahoo 08/05/2016 09:03AM
That is A definition of limited resources but the natural -- 111Balz 08/05/2016 09:27AM
What's the craziest? Your Rolling Stones rape accusations? ** -- dajoka004 08/05/2016 07:32AM
You really have no idea what you are talking about -- 111Balz 08/05/2016 07:46AM
Don't try to revise history Balz -- dajoka004 08/05/2016 07:49AM
+1 ** -- Hokieesith 08/05/2016 10:55AM
Ahh, that's a bad word to you isn't it. I'm not going to -- 111Balz 08/05/2016 07:56AM
Re: Ahh, that's a bad word to you isn't it. I'm not going to -- Generic 08/05/2016 08:44AM
+1 ** -- Hokieesith 08/05/2016 10:55AM
Here's an idea: if you're going to drop in randomly to troll people you -- WahooRQ 08/05/2016 09:28AM
No, no, yes, no -- 111Balz 08/05/2016 09:07AM
Shouldn't you be campaigning Hillary? ** -- Hoodafan 08/05/2016 09:24AM
Arn't you a victm of something? ** -- AngusHoo 08/05/2016 10:21AM
Only of your worthless and pointless drive-by posts, but not to -- Hoodafan 08/05/2016 10:26AM
I responded to your drive by post einstein. ** -- AngusHoo 08/05/2016 10:32AM
Which was clearly beyond your understanding. Yip Yip Yip. ** -- Hoodafan 08/05/2016 10:53AM
Hoodafan: a level of self-awareness rivaling Skynet....pre-1997. :o) ** -- WahooRQ 08/05/2016 11:30AM
I'm too "lazy" to be self-aware! :-) But not too lazy to point out it's -- Hoodafan 08/05/2016 11:52AM
Healthcare works best as a commodity? -- Hoocinogenic 08/04/2016 9:48PM
Human right? -- hoothat 08/05/2016 02:56AM
The system can't function if everyone has equal access -- dajoka004 08/04/2016 10:10PM
Yeah, let those other sick people just deal with it. there's no room at the -- 111Balz 08/05/2016 07:02AM
Does everyone get a meal in your analogy? -- Hoocinogenic 08/04/2016 10:28PM
Yeah, everyone gets a meal -- dajoka004 08/04/2016 10:31PM
That's a rather pessimistic view. -- Hoocinogenic 08/04/2016 11:16PM
You're too dense to understand a simple analogy -- dajoka004 08/05/2016 07:33AM
That's not how to spell simplistic. People who need healthcare and can't -- 111Balz 08/05/2016 07:54AM
Again, you don't work in health care -- dajoka004 08/05/2016 08:02AM
I don't either - but somehow every developed country on Earth has found a -- WahooRQ 08/05/2016 08:45AM
I agree that healthcare should be a service. One of the -- Cold Hoober Hoo 08/05/2016 10:25AM
Well we can find a way to expand capacity or we can ration -- 111Balz 08/05/2016 08:24AM
What's your proposition to expand capacity? ** -- dajoka004 08/05/2016 08:34AM
Honest question, what would be yours? Oregon touched on the problems -- Hoodafan 08/05/2016 09:22AM
Here are a few things to start -- dajoka004 08/05/2016 09:45AM
Thanks for that. A bit one-sided, but to be expected, and very helpful and -- WahooRQ 08/05/2016 11:36AM
Wow. Good stuff there. I take back my snarky comments -- 111Balz 08/05/2016 10:13AM
Thanks! I agree and think most of that makes sense. I would tweek toclarify -- Hoodafan 08/05/2016 10:11AM
I think oregon had some good suggestions in this string ** -- 111Balz 08/05/2016 09:05AM
Pessimistic, perhaps, but also realistic. ** -- Hokie5150 08/05/2016 07:24AM
Universal human right for everybody? Any limits on that "right"? -- BocaHoo91 08/04/2016 9:56PM
I think the bigger imperative is benefit to society -- 111Balz 08/05/2016 07:08AM
I don't disagree with a lot of that. I think our main disagreement would -- BocaHoo91 08/05/2016 08:03AM
Sometimes it helps me to use the jungle or wilderness analogy -- 111Balz 08/05/2016 08:28AM
In both places you have the right to the health care you can provide for -- Hokie5150 08/05/2016 10:20AM
Of course there would be "limits" on the "right" -- Hoocinogenic 08/04/2016 10:07PM
Are food and shelter a human right? ** -- BocaHoo91 08/04/2016 10:10PM
Yes. Yes they are. -- Hoocinogenic 08/04/2016 10:23PM
How would you propose to pay for all of those rights for -- BocaHoo91 08/04/2016 10:33PM
We could ditch private, for-profit, employer/taxpayer subsidized insurance -- WahooRQ 08/04/2016 11:20PM
Cut the military budget in half. -- Hoocinogenic 08/04/2016 11:14PM
I agree. Great, now you only need to cut $300 billion more -- BocaHoo91 08/05/2016 06:02AM
You could cut the need for monthly private insurance premiums and replace -- WahooRQ 08/05/2016 08:48AM
That will save a little. Would you make it a fixed percentage -- BocaHoo91 08/05/2016 11:11AM
Congress won't even close military bases the Pentagon does not want ** -- Toolie92 08/04/2016 11:29PM
And I've heard we have tanks sitting in warehouse somewhere we don't -- Hoocinogenic 08/04/2016 11:58PM
Said Poland in 1938. ** -- hoothat 08/05/2016 02:59AM
Delete your account. ** -- Hoocinogenic 08/05/2016 06:05AM
Who's going to invade us? ** -- BocaHoo91 08/05/2016 06:03AM
Was it over when the Muslims bombed Pearl Harbor? ** -- WahooRQ 08/05/2016 09:10AM
Trudeau's comin' and hell's coming with him! ** -- 111Balz 08/05/2016 07:10AM
Mexico ** -- Tuckahokie 08/05/2016 06:28AM
You could also move to Canada, and enjoy the long waits - you can even -- Mr Wahoo 08/04/2016 8:35PM
Many of my Canadian doctor colleagues tell me wait times are worse here -- Oregon Hoo 08/05/2016 12:29AM
Funny how American conservatives always know more about healthcare in -- WahooRQ 08/05/2016 08:51AM
I lived 20 miles from the Canadian border and worked in a border town. -- Shenhoo 08/05/2016 08:25AM
Hip/knee replacement wait times here at about 6 mos also -- Oregon Hoo 08/05/2016 09:02AM
Actually, most of Europe, Australia, Japan are more universal than Canada -- NorthernExposure 08/04/2016 9:04PM
All a result of healthier populations ** -- dajoka004 08/04/2016 9:14PM
Better healthcare isn't THE reason they are healthier, but certainly A -- WahooRQ 08/04/2016 10:35PM
I would think diet and lifestyle is by far the largest factor -- Moneyshot 08/04/2016 10:49PM
That I will agree with you on, and our car based country -- Oregon Hoo 08/05/2016 12:32AM
That's not what I said -- dajoka004 08/04/2016 10:43PM
As a physician I feel at least somewhat qualified to comment on this -- Oregon Hoo 08/04/2016 7:59PM
I can't recall the last time I've even seen an actual doctor -- Faz d. Hoo 08/05/2016 01:46AM
Not sure I follow, which tasks are you referring to? -- Oregon Hoo 08/05/2016 09:06AM
Question for you -- MaizeAndBlueWahoo 08/04/2016 9:04PM
Fewer applicants or less qualified ones ... ** -- CharlestonSC 08/04/2016 10:15PM
What's the saying? You can have it cheap, fast, or good... pick 2 -- BocaHoo91 08/04/2016 10:09PM
The only problem with that is -- MaizeAndBlueWahoo 08/05/2016 09:00AM
Oh there would have to be much more that would also have to change -- Oregon Hoo 08/04/2016 10:04PM
Lower tiered med schools are already bad enough -- dajoka004 08/04/2016 10:13PM
Pay doctors more to make medicine more attractive again? -- Hoocinogenic 08/04/2016 10:35PM
It's funny how much I see this argument and perception all over the interne -- Oregon Hoo 08/05/2016 12:23AM
I wasn't trying to throw shade at anyone personally, you especially. -- Hoocinogenic 08/05/2016 12:46AM
I agree with that, don't think meds should be advertised direct to consume ** -- Oregon Hoo 08/05/2016 09:08AM
You shifted your argument from an attack on docs to an attack on pharm -- dajoka004 08/05/2016 07:38AM
I know what I said. -- Hoocinogenic 08/05/2016 11:27AM
Wow -- dajoka004 08/04/2016 10:45PM
My future daughters and granddaughters thank you for your dilligence -- Hoocinogenic 08/04/2016 11:04PM
You're getting into tinfoil hat territory with that post. -- BocaHoo91 08/05/2016 06:22AM
A bit perhaps. But we must find a way to offset the high r and d costs -- Hoocinogenic 08/05/2016 2:38PM
Yeah, because that's what most doctors do. -- BocaHoo91 08/04/2016 10:41PM
Most, probably not. But too many for sure. ** -- Hoocinogenic 08/04/2016 11:21PM
You're talking about something you know NOTHING about ** -- dajoka004 08/05/2016 07:34AM
You do realize prescription drug costs account for less than -- BocaHoo91 08/05/2016 06:16AM
This is a complicated issue -- Oregon Hoo 08/04/2016 10:25PM
We're getting there eventually so why not. -- Stimp 08/04/2016 8:11PM
Good post OH, thanks ** -- 111Balz 08/04/2016 8:04PM
I agree. And the pre-ACA is not acceptable. ** -- DanTheFan 08/04/2016 7:42PM
I'm going with 7-1 or 7-4 in the short term. #8 in the long term -- BocaHoo91 08/04/2016 4:49PM
The good news in alll this... -- nyhoo 08/04/2016 4:49PM
You really don't like POTUS, do you? ** -- WahooRQ 08/04/2016 6:56PM
No unfortunately not and -- nyhoo 08/04/2016 10:23PM
No, it didn't even start well -- Faz d. Hoo 08/05/2016 01:51AM
That's what you took from that post? At least you didn't call him a racist. -- Hoodafan 08/04/2016 7:22PM
I asked him, not you. -- WahooRQ 08/04/2016 7:55PM
...in other words, it is working exactly as planned ** -- Tuckahokie 08/04/2016 4:38PM
Ha...I'm not quite that cynical (yet)... -- Moneyshot 08/04/2016 4:41PM
I think the Dems thought...hmmm...what the worst thing that can -- Tuckahokie 08/04/2016 4:44PM