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Los Angeles Hoo

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Speeding tickets are either punishments for crimes committed or...


...civil fines spelled out clearly in advance of any infraction. In other words, if you do X, then you fine is Y. There is no "Well, sure, there were no posted speed limits, but the cop thought that maybe you were going faster than you should have so now we're just going to make up a financial penalty out of thin air in an effort to destroy you financially. Oh, and we're going to enforce that on you retroactively for an alleged drive you took back in 2014. By the way, we have never prosecuted a case like this before."

If Trump Org committed the crime of fraud, then the state can prosecute them/execs in court for the crime of fraud.

The civil case in question simply manufacturers fraud out of thin air, however, as it must since there is no conviction of a crime of fraud, nor has anyone been damaged or even claim to be damaged. This is a prototypical Beria-style case that should be condemned by anyone interest in the fair application of justice.

I think you are smart enough to know that this case is not only completely baseless, but a transparent attempt to target a political enemy -- made explicitly transparent by the prosecutor in question promising to target Trump in her own campaign -- and has no business being tried in a legitimate court, so I don't need to comment further.

(In response to this post by Plano Hoo)

Posted: 01/12/2024 at 6:07PM



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