The Soapbox

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In retrospect, yes --- in point of fact, Trump was attempting to buy time

to find election fraud. He just refused to give up -- in the face of everything he had, all evidence, pointing to NOTHING, he HOPED there would be SOMETHING.

He had NO IDEA what "going to the Capital" would do -- what it would REALLY result in. Other than a delay to the proceedings -- which DID HAPPEN. Just not a very long delay.

Once it became clear that LACK OF ACTION (for 3 whole hours) was going to make him look bad, THEN, and only then, did he say "I love you -- go home". He skirted insurrection laws. He (like he always is) was right on the border. Do I have a problem with holding him to account? Not even a little bit.

How can anyone refute the above? It is so plain and clear and backed up by a mountain of evidence -- including those that represented themselves as Trump's Legal Counsel.

(In response to this post by Los Angeles Hoo)

Posted: 12/07/2023 at 1:50PM

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Buh RuSsHuN KuLlOozYuN ** -- ResistHoo 12/07/2023 11:30AM

That's DIFFERENT!!!!! ** -- HokieDan95 12/07/2023 12:27PM

There actually was Russian collusion. That's not even up for debate. ** -- vwahoov 12/07/2023 12:42PM

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He did, among other meddling attempts. And you can’t prove those efforts -- SixerHoo 12/07/2023 12:57PM

You have no idea what Putin did nor, as you said,... -- Los Angeles Hoo 12/07/2023 1:20PM

Putin is for Putin -- Newt 12/07/2023 4:39PM

Well-said. ** -- Los Angeles Hoo 12/07/2023 5:15PM

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I do know what they say. I also know what they are. ** -- Los Angeles Hoo 12/07/2023 2:13PM

Too bad you don’t know what you are. ** -- SixerHoo 12/07/2023 3:07PM

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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 The only collusion with Russians during... -- Los Angeles Hoo 12/07/2023 1:34PM

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Truth is not the same as capitulation, psycho ** -- WaxHoo 12/07/2023 3:58PM

Russia and China seek to divide the US -- split and conquer if you will. -- Skeets 12/07/2023 1:39PM

No question about that. Every country in the world with any ability to... -- Los Angeles Hoo 12/07/2023 2:07PM

Lol ** -- Los Angeles Hoo 12/07/2023 12:43PM

Jesus, that quick was quick. Do you work? ** -- vwahoov 12/07/2023 12:44PM

Sure he does. He works really hard at running from the truth. -- SixerHoo 12/07/2023 12:51PM

Exactly. ** -- vwahoov 12/07/2023 12:43PM

WAPOTD ** -- HoodatB 12/07/2023 11:50AM

HRBIACFI ** -- ResistHoo 12/07/2023 12:43PM

The Democrats along with the government did it all by themselves? -- Hokieesith 12/07/2023 11:24AM

Exactly. There are layers to this. Yes, of course... -- Los Angeles Hoo 12/07/2023 12:31PM

LOL. Jan 6 was a criminal act by criminals. -- HoodatB 12/07/2023 12:47PM

You are right in more ways than one. ** -- Los Angeles Hoo 12/07/2023 12:52PM

O Jeebus! 🍌🍌🍌🍌🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤡. Pls. stop. My -- WaxHoo 12/07/2023 12:35PM

They helped it along? Are you serious? Do you really believe that? Why? -- BKhoo 12/07/2023 11:51AM

Really? This has to asked? To do what they always want to do. -- Hokieesith 12/07/2023 11:55AM

So the Capitol police wanted to get Trump? -- HoodatB 12/07/2023 12:49PM

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I said "they." Meaning those in charge of security at the Capitol. -- Hokieesith 12/07/2023 11:52AM

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What about the other stuff? -- HoodatB 12/07/2023 1:46PM

Yes, after the badly outnumbered cops had the shit kicked out of them -- hoolstoptheheels 12/07/2023 12:12PM

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It’s almost as if you’ll tell yourself any ridiculous lie to avoid facing -- SixerHoo 12/07/2023 12:34PM

What exactly is the ridiculous lie? -- Hokieesith 12/07/2023 3:52PM

Well… -- SixerHoo 12/07/2023 4:13PM

He’s an expert liar. -- Hokieesith 12/07/2023 5:40PM

These are silly, unserious people. -- BocaHoo91 12/07/2023 1:05PM

You said "the Democrats along with the government" -- BKhoo 12/07/2023 11:55AM

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Man, if Dems are so good at this stuff -- Oregon Hoo 12/07/2023 11:38AM

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I never said they stole the election. I've never thought that. -- Hokieesith 12/07/2023 11:41AM

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The riot destroyed any chance Trump had at using the... -- Los Angeles Hoo 12/07/2023 12:35PM

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And before you post it LA, I'll just say it -- Skeets 12/07/2023 1:55PM

A leader planning an insurrection does not... -- Los Angeles Hoo 12/07/2023 2:41PM

This smacks of revisionist history to the max -- Skeets 12/07/2023 2:59PM

Sorry -- the illegality was all publicized in... -- Los Angeles Hoo 12/07/2023 3:35PM

Cite the evidence that Trump warned the police. Be specific. ** -- SixerHoo 12/07/2023 3:45PM

Not revisionist. Wildly delusional. ** -- SixerHoo 12/07/2023 3:28PM

Nonexistent wrongs can’t be righted. -- SixerHoo 12/07/2023 12:42PM

Yes...emergency session parliamentary rules ** -- HokieDan95 12/07/2023 12:38PM

What emergency? What parliamentary rules? ** -- SixerHoo 12/07/2023 12:44PM

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Jesus Christ that’s dumb. -- BocaHoo91 12/07/2023 11:31AM

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The person attempting to stop the election results from being certified? -- hooshouse 12/07/2023 11:23AM

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Can you link to the illegals voting immediately? ** -- HoodatB 12/07/2023 11:52AM

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Very red? Huh? your cluelessness is on display -- TomKazanski 12/07/2023 1:29PM

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Few, which doesn’t mean any of them support voting before citizenship. -- hoolstoptheheels 12/07/2023 1:59PM

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