Disagree about the Jeebus book not advocating child rape. ** -- ResistHoo 11/15/2023 11:07AM
Posting here so as not to threadjack the below - this Sam Harris podcast -- RML Hoos 11/15/2023 10:27AM
Maybe not as much in the U.S...but in Europe there is an element of -- Tuckahokie 11/15/2023 11:02AM
Uh … here too -- CharlestonSC 11/15/2023 11:36AM
This cannot be a serious post -- Fuzzy Dunlop 11/15/2023 11:40AM
I’ve heard of threats of the former - no instance of it actually happening, -- CharlestonSC 11/15/2023 11:46AM
Tlaib is an idiot who is almost anti-Semitic enough to be a member of the -- WahooRQ 11/15/2023 12:06PM
Atheism is usually very poor intelligence. Mainly low IQ people. -- ryno hoo 11/15/2023 10:58AM
Linus was an idiot for believing in the Great Pumpkin. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 11/15/2023 1:46PM
Wait, what? ** -- Hoodafan 11/15/2023 2:05PM
….sez the guy Hoo struggles to form a coherent sentence ** -- TomGlansAski 11/15/2023 11:22AM
The theism lobby really should look for a better spokesperson. ** -- Cav113 11/15/2023 11:12AM
Here, among a long string of interesting, intelligent and respectful posts ** -- NJHoo 11/15/2023 11:08AM
Thanks for chiming in, fascist. ** -- vwahoov 11/15/2023 11:01AM
Interesting and I am sure insightful - but I have really come to believe -- fishhoo 11/15/2023 10:56AM
Religious zealots are a threat to any functioning society because -- HptHokie 11/15/2023 10:50AM
Atheists can equally justify atrocities with reasoning that flows logically -- SysHoo 11/15/2023 11:14AM
I don’t see a lot of atheists justifying atrocities (and certainly -- TomGlansAski 11/15/2023 11:31AM
I guess you didn't "see" what happened in the 20th century ** -- SysHoo 11/15/2023 11:37AM
So here's the thing about Glans... -- ResistHoo 11/15/2023 12:39PM
Pic. Famous atheists -- ryno hoo 11/15/2023 11:48AM
Impressive death toll from that trio ** -- Tuckahokie 11/15/2023 12:13PM
Care to be a little more specific? ** -- TomGlansAski 11/15/2023 11:42AM
In the 20th century atheist regimes in Russia, China -- SysHoo 11/15/2023 11:52AM
No one has tried real atheism yet. Next time will be genocide free. ** -- ryno hoo 11/15/2023 12:09PM
Says the guy who thinks atheists "should have no say" in society. You're -- vwahoov 11/15/2023 12:36PM
Man I've heard that so many times -- SysHoo 11/15/2023 12:12PM
It'll be cooler when we do it this time. -- ResistHoo 11/15/2023 12:42PM
You should be more concerned about the people actively seeking to end -- vwahoov 11/15/2023 12:38PM
So you conclude that the root cause for bad people doing bad things -- TomGlansAski 11/15/2023 11:56AM
Not anywhere close to what I said ** -- SysHoo 11/15/2023 12:01PM
What were you saying, then? ** -- TomGlansAski 11/15/2023 12:07PM
C'mon -- you know his primary point I think -- fishhoo 11/15/2023 1:52PM
Well, I don’t think it should be controversial to say that faith has been -- TomGlansAski 11/15/2023 2:06PM
I actually would say that is a point that can be and probably has been -- fishhoo 11/15/2023 2:34PM
I'm sure they can but I believe it to far less prevalent and far less of a -- HptHokie 11/15/2023 11:27AM
The 20th century slaughter of many millions in Russia, China, Cambodia -- SysHoo 11/15/2023 11:34AM
Look asshole, I don't need Jeebus to know to do it if it feels good. ** -- ResistHoo 11/15/2023 12:45PM
There is no moral/ethical code that allows the strong to eat the weak ** -- WahooMatt05 11/15/2023 12:18PM
That’s an exceptionally weak argument. An atheist will default to thinking -- TomGlansAski 11/15/2023 11:48AM
I'm saying atheism is no different than Islam in the following sense -- SysHoo 11/15/2023 12:01PM
I think there’s a false equivalency there. There are atheists who do bad -- 111Balz 11/15/2023 2:33PM
The difference between them is mostly superficial -- SysHoo 11/15/2023 4:08PM
I agree religion is not unique. I also think the difference between an -- 111Balz 11/15/2023 4:47PM
Yes understood and a whole separate discussion -- SysHoo 11/15/2023 6:03PM
Good discussion ** -- 111Balz 11/16/2023 11:19AM
Make a Subway sandwich analogy - Glans might be able to follow that. ** -- ResistHoo 11/15/2023 12:46PM
^^^ Excited that he finally remembered "person, man, woman" and was thus -- TomGlansAski 11/15/2023 2:22PM
LOL ** -- SysHoo 11/15/2023 12:57PM
Is there a text of atheism that contains explicit instrucions for waging -- Hooooooooooooooo 11/15/2023 12:17PM
It's absurd to say that the default position of an atheist is the strong -- TomGlansAski 11/15/2023 12:09PM
Religious extremism appeals most to the hopeless. -- hoolstoptheheels 11/15/2023 10:58AM
As well as simpletons and authoritarians. Some people just need a big, -- WahooRQ 11/15/2023 11:05AM
Contmeplating one's own mortality has many a convert made! ** -- Hooooooooooooooo 11/15/2023 12:20PM
Someone so omnipotent that your kid getting terminal cancer -- HptHokie 11/15/2023 11:08AM
Threadjack. Happy 10 year anniversary to Batkid -- WahooMatt05 11/15/2023 11:17AM
Yes, those are the folks you see suddenly become deeply religious. -- hoolstoptheheels 11/15/2023 11:12AM
It's a sad doubling down in my opinion -- HptHokie 11/15/2023 11:14AM
Because it’s comforting to think of it as all part of a grand plan -- hoolstoptheheels 11/15/2023 11:18AM
Of course it is comforting - it's also, in my opinion, bullshit -- HptHokie 11/15/2023 11:26AM
Maybe so - but it also appeals to people who are far from hopeless -- HptHokie 11/15/2023 11:00AM
I disagree. I think the drive to turn our country into a Christian -- hoolstoptheheels 11/15/2023 11:10AM
Bingo. We have our own version of the Taliban. We just (mostly) keep them -- vwahoov 11/15/2023 10:58AM
I have read some of this guy, and seen him speak. Not a fan at all. -- hoolstoptheheels 11/15/2023 10:47AM
As an atheist -- WahooMatt05 11/15/2023 11:02AM
LOL ** -- ResistHoo 11/15/2023 12:48PM
Please. Atheism is a religion the same way not collecting stamps is a hobby** -- vwahoov 11/15/2023 11:00AM
Agnostic =/ Atheist. Atheism requires "faith" or "belief" in something -- RML Hoos 11/15/2023 11:11AM
Correct. ** -- ResistHoo 11/15/2023 12:49PM
Agnostic is "I don't know" - Atheism is generally the absence of a belief -- vwahoov 11/15/2023 11:14AM
True - atheisms does have two potential meanings - Harris is your second -- RML Hoos 11/15/2023 11:20AM
We can’t be sure that there are no gods in the same way we can’t be sure -- TomGlansAski 11/15/2023 11:54AM
Not exactly the same … the evidence is the natural world -- CharlestonSC 11/15/2023 1:35PM
Yeah, and on that I vehemently disagree with him. But in general he's a -- vwahoov 11/15/2023 11:32AM
Talk to Sam Harris, not me. I don’t support it. ** -- hoolstoptheheels 11/15/2023 11:06AM
But you're the one that called it a religion. ** -- vwahoov 11/15/2023 11:11AM
No. I said that Harris approaches it like a religion, with himself as the -- hoolstoptheheels 11/15/2023 11:14AM
Ah, I gotcha. ** -- vwahoov 11/15/2023 11:16AM
That's an interesting take - how do you square fact based logical thinking -- HptHokie 11/15/2023 10:53AM
Actually, I think it’s quite simple. The Golden Rule. Period, end of -- hoolstoptheheels 11/15/2023 10:56AM
Do you really mean the Platinum Rule? -- Bacon 11/15/2023 11:03AM
No, I really mean the Golden Rule. ** -- hoolstoptheheels 11/15/2023 11:05AM
This Golden Rule, or another? -- WahooRQ 11/15/2023 1:17PM
I respect your point but you didn't answer my question -- HptHokie 11/15/2023 10:58AM
I couldn’t answer it. I don’t believe in the afterlife. I think it’s a -- hoolstoptheheels 11/15/2023 11:04AM
Well the afterlife and salvation is a pretty big selling point -- HptHokie 11/15/2023 11:06AM
I totally agree. I understand it’s draw, and my problem with Harris is he -- hoolstoptheheels 11/15/2023 11:16AM
Good point and good discussion - a reminder of what this board can be ** -- HptHokie 11/15/2023 11:28AM
Agree about his atheisms - why I called him an "evangelical atheist" as -- RML Hoos 11/15/2023 10:51AM
I disagree. Why is it an act of faith to deny the existence of something -- SixerHoo 11/15/2023 11:05AM
We probably need a third term - athiest can mean either -- RML Hoos 11/15/2023 11:24AM
If we call actively believing there is no god or gods a religious belief -- SixerHoo 11/15/2023 12:05PM