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It’s sad that elder abuse proves so effective on you. Biden has been a

staunch supporter of Israel for 50 years.

Don’t take it from me though:

“At the 2013 AIPAC Policy Conference, Biden explained how he aquired his affection for Israel. “We gathered at my dinner table to have conversation,” he said. “It was at that table I first heard the phrase that is overused sometimes today, but in a sense not used meaningfully enough — first I heard the phrase, ‘Never again.’” He said he also “learned that the only way to ensure that it could never happen again was the establishment and the existence of a secure, Jewish state of Israel.”

Biden recalled his Christian father being baffled by the debate following World War II over whether or not to establish the State of Israel. “My father would say, were he a Jew, he would never, never entrust the security of his people to any individual nation, no matter how good and how noble it was, like the United States.”

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“Unlike his rivals, Biden had a decades-long record of support for Israel from his career as a senator and vice president. Biden will benefit from his role in the Obama administration with voters who supported the Iran nuclear deal and his other Middle East policies while many of those same policies will alienate voters who opposed them.

A former U.S. official told Al-Monitor, “Biden was a leading voice to argue that we still need to solidify the relationship to include providing additional security assistance to Israel,” the former official said, “to make sure that the Israelis understood whatever our disagreements were on the Iran deal, that we continue to support their security.”

Biden had known Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu for years and had a warmer relationship with him than Obama. One cause of tension was Netanyahu’s decision to address a joint session of Congress to oppose the Iran nuclear deal. Like many Democrats, Biden did not attend the speech. The Netanyahu government also embarrassed Biden by announcing 1,600 new homes for Jews in East Jerusalem in the middle of the then-vice president’s 2010 trip to Israel, which Biden condemned as “precisely the kind of step that undermines the trust we need right now.”

Nevetheless, Uzi Arad, one of Netanyahu’s advisors, said that when the prime minister came to meet with the president in 2010, Biden threw his arm around Arad and said with a smile, “Just remember that I am your best fucking friend here.”

In 2012, Biden said Netanyahu has been his friend for more than 30 years. “Bibi, I don’t agree with a damn thing you say, but I love you,” Biden said at the time.”

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[Post edited by WahooRQ at 10/08/2023 10:38AM]

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Link: Take it from these pro-Hamas anti-Semites

Posted: 10/08/2023 at 10:35AM

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Initial response from Biden Administration urging Israel to “refrain from -- JMHoo 10/08/2023 08:53AM

Here is a very recent AP report on all of this. -- 111Balz 10/08/2023 10:23AM

You and the other halfwit geezers on this site need better sources. Here -- WahooRQ 10/08/2023 10:00AM

That’s a later statement. The one I posted was removed. -- JMHoo 10/08/2023 11:36AM

It was just a standard canned response after a terror attack, likely prior -- JohnHoo2 10/08/2023 3:30PM

Best post in this thread ** -- 111Balz 10/08/2023 4:03PM

A rule you would follow with your own posts if you had any sense of honor, -- WahooRQ 10/08/2023 12:03PM

There was nothing wrong with the statement at 3:28 AM early in the attacks -- 111Balz 10/08/2023 11:44AM

The Biden Administration’s has expressed support for Israel in words only -- Hoos Operator 10/08/2023 09:53AM

Source? ** -- SixerHoo 10/08/2023 2:26PM

It’s sad that elder abuse proves so effective on you. Biden has been a -- WahooRQ 10/08/2023 10:35AM

Sure ** -- 111Balz 10/08/2023 10:17AM

It’s 🌲. ** -- Los Angeles Hoo 10/08/2023 10:03AM

Yes, it’s for people who should be wearing pointy hats and sitting in -- TomGlansAski 10/08/2023 11:08AM

Better for them to tell Israel to kill bunch of civilians as payback? ** -- JohnHoo2 10/08/2023 09:50AM

Here are Biden’s actual words delivered yesterday. -- hoolstoptheheels 10/08/2023 09:34AM

Doesn’t refute what I said, or what the State Department -- JMHoo 10/08/2023 11:39AM

I beg to to differ. The state dept clearly never authorized your gotcha -- hoolstoptheheels 10/08/2023 11:45AM

JM really has no relationship with the truth. It’s all about getting the -- 111Balz 10/08/2023 09:37AM

Earth 2 Biden never said that. ** -- SixerHoo 10/08/2023 09:37AM

He clearly said Biden Administration. The statement also said -- Cold Hoober Hoo 10/08/2023 09:58AM

I beg to differ. The “Biden Administration” unequivocally supported Israel -- hoolstoptheheels 10/08/2023 10:13AM

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Seems a difference without a distinction. The admin’s claim is that -- hoolstoptheheels 10/08/2023 10:37AM

Then that employee needs to be fired immediately. Someone at some -- Cold Hoober Hoo 10/08/2023 10:48AM

No, it has almost no power. I frankly strongly disagree with your entire -- hoolstoptheheels 10/08/2023 10:58AM

It was issued at 3:28 AM Saturday morning very early into the attacks. -- 111Balz 10/08/2023 10:36AM

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I don’t know if this administration gave any money to the Gaza Strip. -- Cold Hoober Hoo 10/08/2023 10:07AM

It’s a lie. No need to caucus with this garbage. -- WahooRQ 10/08/2023 10:19AM

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I knew what you meant was the half truth. I think even that’s given the guy -- 111Balz 10/08/2023 10:16AM

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Biden statement… -- SixerHoo 10/08/2023 09:12AM

They reflexively go to weakness, which is why… -- Los Angeles Hoo 10/08/2023 09:08AM

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It’s a perfect summary of beliefs you espouse here regularly. ** -- SixerHoo 10/08/2023 2:29PM

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It’s pathetic to think so. ** -- HoodatB 10/08/2023 12:00PM

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Look up the word “fungible” with special emphasis on money. ** -- Los Angeles Hoo 10/08/2023 10:01AM

The funds haven’t even been released and amount to -- BocaHoo91 10/08/2023 10:11AM

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It's the Saudi deal. Only the usual suspects will believe the rest. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 10/08/2023 12:04PM

I disagree. I think the Biden admin has to deal with that criticism. -- hoolstoptheheels 10/08/2023 12:06PM

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I've decided that you're a pessimist. :) ** -- Seattle .Hoo 10/08/2023 12:18PM

This is going to be awful, Seattle. Israel is in a cross between a 9/11 -- hoolstoptheheels 10/08/2023 12:24PM

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Did Hamas steal their “Jews will not replace us” battle cry from your -- WahooRQ 10/08/2023 08:59AM

More antisemitism from the resident malignancy. ** -- Hoos Operator 10/08/2023 09:29AM

Or, moron, I despise anti-Semites. Including the ones you vote for and -- WahooRQ 10/08/2023 09:44AM

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🌲 ** -- JMHoo 10/08/2023 09:11AM

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That people here call out the BS from you and the other trump stooges? -- 111Balz 10/08/2023 11:10AM

In Balz’ defense, he has firsthand expertise on lying. ** -- Hoos Operator 10/08/2023 09:28AM

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