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I believe you don't try to assign the entire cost of a suite to one ticket

holder in that suite. I believe you don't try to assign the entire cost of a private jet flight to one passenger on that flight. I believe you don't try to assign the entire cost of renting a luxury boat to one passenger that happened to ever take a trip on that boat. I believe that the only way to disprove a lie about you, is to have two parties implicated in that lie to refute the claims, and return the onus to prove that lie on those spreading it. I believe if a "journalist" assumes their reader is just too stupid to recognize such glaring overstatements of case, that you should more greatly scrutinize that "journalist" as a source, no matter how much you politically like what they are telling you.

I realize such basic scrutiny might just be a bit too much of a stretch for some "mindless, unthinking idiots" here, but it really shouldn't be that much of a challenge, even for them.

(In response to this post by 111Balz)

Posted: 08/21/2023 at 10:29AM

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