It’s a simple conflation fallacy, nothing more -

Where does the repuke budget that cuts border security officers come into -- HiwasseeHoo 05/01/2023 4:22PM

Interesting you mention budget. Here's a link that covers CBP and ICE -- southdenverhoo 05/01/2023 6:02PM

We dont need to spend more. Just stop the flow into the country. -- FrankGallagher 05/01/2023 6:25PM

Nobody processed any paperwork on the Cleveland TX killer -- southdenverhoo 05/01/2023 7:37PM

Asylum claims are largely bs. When they fail to appear its illegal. ** -- FrankGallagher 05/01/2023 9:40PM

If you eliminated every asylum claim, the Cleveland killer would still have -- southdenverhoo 05/01/2023 10:17PM

"Stop the flow." Imprison them? Shoot them? Invade Mexico? What? ** -- Seattle .Hoo 05/01/2023 6:28PM

Just turn off the damned immigrant valve! ** -- 81_Hokie 05/01/2023 6:48PM

So easy even a caveman could do it. Much easier than just turning off -- Hoo TV 05/01/2023 7:01PM

Last heard from in 2016, so this seems like a false equivalency ** -- Skeets 05/01/2023 2:48PM

Why is that your focus? Same reason the Nashville shooter’s transgender -- hoolstoptheheels 05/01/2023 2:36PM

Hey, where is it’s manifesto that was promised? -- FrankGallagher 05/01/2023 6:27PM

It’s a simple conflation fallacy, nothing more - -- Eusebia 05/01/2023 3:21PM

Sure they are - they’re just shameless about it. -- hoolstoptheheels 05/01/2023 3:28PM

If we protected our borders, the dead would be alive. ** -- Los Angeles Hoo 05/01/2023 2:51PM

The guy was deported multiple times. What would you have the -- SixerHoo 05/01/2023 4:30PM

I’m not blaming only the Biden administration, although… -- Los Angeles Hoo 05/01/2023 5:31PM

It also seems if the police did their job, the dead would be alive also. ** -- HoodatB 05/01/2023 3:28PM

Seems to me if guns weren’t so insanely easy to get in this country lots -- SixerHoo 05/01/2023 4:34PM

And don't get me started on good guys with guns fumbling the ball AGAIN** -- Hoo TV 05/01/2023 3:40PM

Why should local police have to deal with the predicable fallout from… -- Los Angeles Hoo 05/01/2023 3:30PM

Their job is to protect the people, especially when people notify them of -- HoodatB 05/01/2023 4:04PM

That wasn’t the question. ** -- Los Angeles Hoo 05/01/2023 4:09PM

Don’t ask stupid questions based on false premises and you might get an -- SixerHoo 05/01/2023 4:56PM

What is stupid about the question? ** -- Los Angeles Hoo 05/01/2023 5:22PM

What isn’t? -- SixerHoo 05/02/2023 07:04AM

I’ll allow it ** -- TomGlansAski 05/01/2023 4:13PM

Ask the father with the slaughtered family about that. ** -- 81_Hokie 05/01/2023 4:04PM

The guy had been deported between 4 and 6 times according to reporting. -- Hoodafan 05/01/2023 3:41PM

Spans Obama, Trump and Biden admins, right? ** -- HoodatB 05/01/2023 4:16PM

Not really if last deportation was in '16. But it wasn't really my intent -- Hoodafan 05/01/2023 4:23PM

Well if last deportation was under Obama -- BocaHoo91 05/01/2023 5:19PM

You might as well blame geography, and the shallowness of the Rio Grande -- southdenverhoo 05/01/2023 7:59PM

This shooting was about deportation, whereas many of the others were about -- TomGlansAski 05/01/2023 4:15PM

Only you ban, confiscate, but refuse to imprison gun grabbers say that. -- Hoodafan 05/01/2023 4:19PM

And yet, you're defending Frank's dumbassery against stronger ... -- Blah 05/01/2023 4:40PM

Link? Now, back to your Blahing about Frank being against stronger -- Hoodafan 05/01/2023 5:13PM

Your philosophy prof should have taught you not to answer a -- TomGlansAski 05/01/2023 4:37PM

Imagine that. ** -- Los Angeles Hoo 05/01/2023 3:43PM

Only 5 of the hundreds that are dead...... -- Zhoo 05/01/2023 3:24PM

Those five matter. ** -- Los Angeles Hoo 05/01/2023 3:31PM

Their deaths matter neither more nor less than those of -- SixerHoo 05/01/2023 4:45PM

They all do but you guys dont care as long as 2A is -- Zhoo 05/01/2023 3:34PM

Yes, the 2A must be preserved. ** -- Los Angeles Hoo 05/01/2023 3:37PM

Yes but the militia doesn't appear to be well regulated! ** -- Hooooooooooooooo 05/01/2023 5:03PM

Preserved, distorted. -- LonghornHokie 05/01/2023 4:01PM

Why do you hate our food supply?!?!? ** -- ResistHoo 05/01/2023 3:09PM

If the cost of having our tomatoes be 10% cheaper is… -- Los Angeles Hoo 05/01/2023 3:12PM

And if never built that bell tower in Texas -- Zhoo 05/01/2023 3:30PM

All they're trying to do is get to a place where abortions are available!!! -- ResistHoo 05/01/2023 3:16PM

Was this killer one of those pregnant men you guys are always referencing? ** -- Los Angeles Hoo 05/01/2023 3:18PM

Seriously, what information do you have that xe wasn't a pregnant man?!?!? ** -- ResistHoo 05/01/2023 3:19PM

Possibly. We have so many mass shootings in this country, an illegal -- hoolstoptheheels 05/01/2023 3:01PM

Just looked what happened to his busybody neighbors after they complained** -- Hoo TV 05/01/2023 3:26PM

The person pulling the trigger is the problem from the start. Many -- Lupos 05/01/2023 3:24PM

That makes no sense. The entire complaint here is that the cops had ample -- hoolstoptheheels 05/01/2023 3:39PM

Exactly. No law-abiding gun owner did anything wrong here, so… -- Los Angeles Hoo 05/01/2023 3:33PM

Every mass shooter who purchases a gun legally is 'law-abiding'. -- LonghornHokie 05/01/2023 4:08PM

Which law that you propose would have stopped this killing or… -- Los Angeles Hoo 05/01/2023 4:13PM

Licensing+local ordinances against unreasonable discharge+red flag laws. ** -- Faz d. Hoo 05/01/2023 4:29PM

We have red flag laws already. You don’t need a license… -- Los Angeles Hoo 05/01/2023 5:21PM

You can't just shoot firearms willy-nilly in Alexandria. It is illegal. -- Faz d. Hoo 05/01/2023 8:29PM

I’m scratching my head how a law against discharging a firearm would -- JMHoo 05/08/2023 10:52AM

It would seem reasonable to lose your gun license for gun violations just -- Faz d. Hoo 05/08/2023 10:55AM

I'm not hearing that these mass shooters have prior "gun violations" that -- JMHoo 05/08/2023 11:00AM

That's a circular argument. That guy in Texas who shot his guns in his yard -- Faz d. Hoo 05/08/2023 11:06AM

Never listen to that idiot. Texas does not have a red flag law. -- WahooRQ 05/01/2023 8:48PM

Unpossible ** -- Hoo TV 05/01/2023 5:17PM

I’m taking about this case and these deceased. If…. -- Los Angeles Hoo 05/01/2023 3:05PM

It's 2 separate issues. 1. Access to guns. 2. Illegal immigrants in America -- Blah 05/01/2023 3:09PM

Strictly speaking, LA’s post is accurate. If this shooter were not in the -- hoolstoptheheels 05/01/2023 3:20PM

However, he's assuming that stronger borders would prevent ... -- Blah 05/01/2023 3:29PM

Fair enough. ** -- hoolstoptheheels 05/01/2023 3:32PM

Don't get me wrong. I get what you and LAHoo are saying too. -- Blah 05/01/2023 3:43PM

His intentions are not...... ** -- Zhoo 05/01/2023 3:22PM

I love mindreaders. What are my intentions? ** -- Los Angeles Hoo 05/01/2023 3:43PM

The victims were apparently not illegal, and you’re merely ending the story -- hoolstoptheheels 05/01/2023 3:08PM

Why does the immigration status of the victims matter? The issue is… -- Los Angeles Hoo 05/01/2023 3:17PM

Everything about all your comments here is partisan. You’re just so -- SixerHoo 05/01/2023 4:51PM

The poster boy for the partisanship version of the Dunning-Kruger affect -- Hoo TV 05/01/2023 4:58PM

Imo the distraction of immigration is the partisan hackery. It’s absurd. -- hoolstoptheheels 05/01/2023 3:26PM

Seems to me like the better solution would be to change the “cops” in… -- Los Angeles Hoo 05/01/2023 3:36PM

In this case, the cops’ hands were tied by TX law, or they completely -- hoolstoptheheels 05/01/2023 3:42PM

Didn’t know “DC” was a party, but I like… -- Los Angeles Hoo 05/01/2023 3:49PM

Possibly no laws were broken, hence the talk of Texas gun fetish. ** -- 81_Hokie 05/01/2023 4:06PM

An illegal immigrant from Mexico has assimilated so much… -- Los Angeles Hoo 05/01/2023 5:35PM

Are you really that dense? Wait, I know the answer. If the sheriff really -- 81_Hokie 05/01/2023 5:55PM

If neighbors repeatedly called because the shooter was firing his -- hoolstoptheheels 05/01/2023 3:53PM

I mean, how can there be a counter-argument to this? It's the most obvious -- southdenverhoo 05/01/2023 8:03PM

The neighbors allegedly filed numerous police complaints against Oropeza. -- Blah 05/01/2023 2:59PM

Maybe. We don’t know one way or the other, but… -- Los Angeles Hoo 05/01/2023 3:09PM

How do you know if Oropeza wouldn't have gotten in with stronger borders? -- Blah 05/01/2023 3:17PM

Nothing is foolproof, but we could cut illegal immigration by 99%… -- Los Angeles Hoo 05/01/2023 3:20PM

With just a wall? We'll also have to pour billions annually ... -- Blah 05/01/2023 3:39PM

Yes, it would cost billions. Far less than, say, the money… -- Los Angeles Hoo 05/01/2023 4:42PM

Why are you always taking the side of Putin. It's freakin' weird. ** -- Blah 05/01/2023 4:54PM

Eh, I care more about our own borders than Ukraine’s. ** -- Los Angeles Hoo 05/01/2023 5:49PM

If we didn't have easy access to guns, the dead would be alive. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 05/01/2023 2:57PM

Or if the sheriff felt empowered to act on apparently very obvious evidence ** -- hoolstoptheheels 05/01/2023 3:02PM

The shooter was clearly standing his ground against the dangerously -- 81_Hokie 05/01/2023 2:49PM

So what is Cleveland TX, one of those sanctuary cities or something? -- southdenverhoo 05/01/2023 2:36PM

Liberty County TX--roughly 80%-20% Republican in 2020 election. Probably -- southdenverhoo 05/01/2023 3:13PM

2A says “right of the people”, not right of the citizens ** -- 757 05/01/2023 2:01PM

It’s not a 2A issue. It’s an open-borders issue. ** -- Los Angeles Hoo 05/01/2023 2:35PM

The text of the Constitution -- 757 05/01/2023 2:58PM

That’s like saying it’s an abortion issue -- WahooMatt05 05/01/2023 2:38PM

Bearing children is not a crime. Violating immigration laws is… -- Los Angeles Hoo 05/01/2023 2:58PM

This guy on the run has a wife..... -- Zhoo 05/01/2023 3:03PM

I’m commenting on this story based on the news I’ve seen that… -- Los Angeles Hoo 05/01/2023 3:26PM

The news never said he is currently an illegal -- Zhoo 05/01/2023 3:33PM

What am I deflecting? Do you think the … -- Los Angeles Hoo 05/01/2023 3:42PM

Ahem....refusing to enforce? Apparently he was deported four times. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 05/01/2023 2:59PM

And let in five. ** -- Los Angeles Hoo 05/01/2023 3:28PM

How do you know he was "let in?" ** -- Seattle .Hoo 05/01/2023 6:19PM

LAHoo is talking about Earth2. ** -- Blah 05/01/2023 2:50PM

The only thing we really know for sure... -- LonghornHokie 05/01/2023 2:49PM

Correct. It is a crime issue. ** -- Los Angeles Hoo 05/01/2023 2:56PM

The solution is....what, exactly? ** -- Seattle .Hoo 05/01/2023 2:58PM

Re-elect Trump. -- LonghornHokie 05/01/2023 3:52PM

Except gun violence always includes the perpetual ubetiquous gun. ** -- Blah 05/01/2023 2:54PM

Technically correct. Lol! ** -- HoosWillWin 05/01/2023 2:22PM

Has it been reported yet which "well regulated militia" he was a part of? ** -- LonghornHokie 05/01/2023 2:06PM

It said "a" well regulated militia. Could be a Mexican militia. ** -- HoosWillWin 05/01/2023 2:23PM

Seems like they could be a very valuable source of leads ** -- Hoo TV 05/01/2023 2:13PM

You still on this topic? ** -- Seattle .Hoo 05/01/2023 1:35PM

I’d like to know how he got the gun and why -- BocaHoo91 05/01/2023 1:35PM

Probably through a straw purchaser. Well over 90% of guns used in ... -- HowieT3 05/01/2023 2:33PM

Too bad we can't close that private/3rd party sale loophole. Frankie ... -- Blah 05/01/2023 2:45PM

Well, Frankie is a libertarian and therefore views the Constitution as ... -- HowieT3 05/01/2023 4:51PM

Do you ever not Blah about posters? -- Hoodafan 05/01/2023 2:58PM

Thanks for playing hobbit (link) ... -- Blah 05/01/2023 3:05PM

Good God, even you can't be this dumb. That's what you took from that post? -- Hoodafan 05/01/2023 3:09PM

Why is it a pretty safe assumption? How do you know? -- Blah 05/01/2023 3:12PM

Nice attempt to "move the goalposts" BoxOfRocksBlah. First, those here -- Hoodafan 05/01/2023 3:19PM

LOL. Perhaps with stronger backgrounds checks and longer ... -- Blah 05/01/2023 3:23PM

Yes, I'm sure those buying guns illegally will totally be stopped by -- Hoodafan 05/01/2023 3:31PM

Yes, because illegals can't buy guns through private/3rd party sales. LOL. -- Blah 05/01/2023 3:36PM

Doing so remains illegal, so yes "it's a pretty safe assumption". And if -- Hoodafan 05/01/2023 3:50PM

No shit Sherlock. The entire point is putting some accountability ... -- Blah 05/01/2023 3:59PM

Selling to someone that can't buy a gun legally is also illegal. That's how -- Hoodafan 05/01/2023 4:04PM

No shit. And how does the seller know the buyer is illegal? Oh ... -- Blah 05/01/2023 4:09PM

Good God, you really can be this dumb. -- Hoodafan 05/01/2023 4:13PM

Like I said, you have no ratuonal rebuttal. LOL. Have a nice day. ** -- Blah 05/01/2023 4:15PM

LOL! Yes, pay no attention to my having rebutted every lame attempt to -- Hoodafan 05/01/2023 4:17PM

It's a totally unsafe assumption that xe's not that dumb, Hooduh. -- ResistHoo 05/01/2023 3:17PM

Once Creepy Hobbit runs interfence, I know Hooda has no rebuttal. -- Blah 05/01/2023 3:19PM

Yet another of the countless things you don't actually "know". ** -- Hoodafan 05/01/2023 3:21PM

I get the how but do you really need to know the why? -- JMHoo 05/01/2023 2:32PM

Dunno. Did the shooter have a manifesto? ** -- Seattle .Hoo 05/01/2023 2:54PM

Because if the sheriff were able to act on multiple complaints about this -- hoolstoptheheels 05/01/2023 2:43PM

If it gets to civil court, it will matter. Do you disagree counselor? ** -- Blah 05/01/2023 2:39PM

The sheriff addressed it - claimed that the law (state or local I assume) -- hoolstoptheheels 05/01/2023 2:27PM

I’m going to call bullshit, but we’re talking about Texas so who knows. ** -- Cold Hoober Hoo 05/01/2023 2:58PM

Then the sheriff needs to be in the crosshairs. -- hoolstoptheheels 05/01/2023 3:04PM

Yeah, that's a bit hard to believe. Even if they don't have laws preventing -- Hoodafan 05/01/2023 3:03PM

At best is right. If the sheriff is accurately characterizing his options -- hoolstoptheheels 05/01/2023 3:06PM

Yep, if a Sherriff is called out for random shootings, can't verify if the -- Hoodafan 05/01/2023 3:14PM

How about if he has the guns legally, but clearly demonstrates -- hoolstoptheheels 05/01/2023 3:48PM

It seems near impossible for this guy to have guns legally, but even taking -- Hoodafan 05/01/2023 3:55PM

Don’t know. It’s way worse if the guns were acquired illegally, I agree. -- hoolstoptheheels 05/01/2023 3:59PM

Certainly seems they'll have plenty of questions to answer. And I don't -- Hoodafan 05/01/2023 4:05PM

Isn't it the job of the sheriff to know? It sounds like he knows ... -- Blah 05/01/2023 2:41PM

Probably sent in the off-duty Uvalde dudes ** -- LonghornHokie 05/01/2023 2:07PM

Too afraid of his firepower. Besides, making it difficult for illegals to -- Hoo TV 05/01/2023 1:53PM

Doors. If only that house had only one door ** -- WaxHoo 05/01/2023 2:32PM

If only it had no doors he couldn't have gotten in. Problem solved! ** -- 81_Hokie 05/01/2023 3:03PM

Doors aren't mentioned anywhere in the Constitution ** -- Hoo TV 05/01/2023 3:19PM

Those are 2 excellent questions on 2 separate issues. ** -- Blah 05/01/2023 1:40PM

Yes. My understanding is that they recovered the weapon. Should be easy to -- Seattle .Hoo 05/01/2023 1:38PM

Even the neighbors didn't think twice hearing the gun shots. -- Blah 05/01/2023 1:42PM

Yee haw -- CAVern 05/01/2023 2:06PM

They're just tools. Wonder why they weren't shooting nail guns instead? ** -- Seattle .Hoo 05/01/2023 1:53PM

Lefties? You still watch Fox News? ** -- Blah 05/01/2023 1:30PM

It’s a simple conflation fallacy, nothing more -

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