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I've now read the trigger/on-hold abortion laws for AK, AR, KY, LA, and OK.


For those of you who keep insisting the pro-choice crowd should stop "fear-mongering" because "women will still be able to get abortions," that's just flat-out wrong.

Not wanting to trust articles and quotes in articles from people with various strong biases, I went to the original source: the actual text of the laws themselves.  Only made it through these 5 so far, but all 5 ban abortion from the moment of conception (not even after 6 or however many weeks, but at any point past fertilization) except in the rarest of circumstances as outlined below.

Alaska (easily the most lenient of the 5): only exceptions are for preserving the life of the pregnant woman (if 2 doctors sign off), to "avert serious risk of substantial physical impairment of a major bodily function" of the pregnant woman (if 2 doctors sign off), a lethal anomaly of the fetus, or to remove a dead unborn fetus, plus an explicit exception for ectopic pregnancy.  NO EXCEPTIONS for rape or incest.

Arkansas: only exceptions are for preserving the life of the pregnant woman or to remove a dead unborn fetus, plus an explicit exception for ectopic pregnancy.  NO EXCEPTIONS for rape or incest, serious risk of physical harm to the pregnant woman, or a lethal anomaly of the fetus.

Kentucky: only exceptions are for preserving the life of the pregnant woman or "to prevent the serious, permanent impairment of a life-sustaining organ of a pregnant woman" (so no matter how harmful to the pregnant woman, if it's not permanent damage to a life-sustaining organ, too bad).  NO EXCEPTIONS for rape or incest, lethal anomaly of the fetus, or to remove an unborn fetus.

Louisiana: only exceptions are to preserve the life of the pregnant woman, "to prevent the serious, permanent impairment of a life-sustaining organ of a pregnant woman" (so no matter how harmful to the pregnant woman, if it's not permanent damage to a life-sustaining organ, too bad), or to remove an unborn fetus.  NO EXCEPTIONS for rape or incest, or lethal anomaly of the fetus.

Oklahoma: only exception is to preserve the life of the pregnant woman "in a medical emergency" (seems that wouldn't apply to, for example, an ectopic pregnancy until the woman's fallopian tube actually bursts - awesome!).  NO EXCEPTIONS for rape or incest, serious risk of physical harm to the pregnant woman, lethal anomaly of the fetus, or to remove an unborn fetus.

Only the wealthiest women who can deal with various obstacles like taking off work and all kind of other stuff will be able to travel to states where they can get abortions.**  This notion that some of you seem to have that women will still be able to get abortions but they'll just have to get them sooner or something (I'm really not really sure what you actually think is happening with these laws in red states) - it's just not true.

 **Even that is at risk since Georgia has already passed a law (held up in courts pending this Dobbs decision, and other states are surely watching this Georgia case) that explicitly makes it illegal for anyone to leave the state, or even to help anyone leave the state, to get an abortion.

Posted: 05/05/2022 at 11:04PM



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