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Folly Beach Hokie

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Who said it justified?


Hokiesith mentioned blame to go around, not justification for Putin's actions...invading a sovereign country, bombing known civilian targets, using vacuum bombs, or any of his many asymmetrical responses he has done.
However, the fact is we actively helped overthrow a pro-russian government in Ukraine with people actually on the ground, then worked to weaponize them and get them into NATO. The actions of Sullivan, Vindman, Nuland, and many more had current day consequences. Naturally, it has caused hostilities for 7-8 years with Russia and the West, so much for the gift of a reset switch in 2009, or whenever it was. Does any of the above justify Putin's actions over the last few weeks...hell no. And I highly doubt it does for @Hokieesith , as well. But, there were opportunities to de-escalate that often fell short, or did actually quite the opposite.
History builds on itself and has unforeseen consequences. The steps of 2014 (and many since) have helped to isolate a desperate country with a desperate leader. I don't claim to have the answers...in current, or even in hindsight, but I don't dismiss history.

[Post edited by Folly Beach Hokie at 03/17/2022 4:31PM]

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Posted: 03/17/2022 at 4:16PM



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