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hoolstoptheheels

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Here's a case where a hypothetical whaddabout could apply. I am completely


unsurprised by Carlson's statement, or HO's in your post below, which is the best example of those 3 of what you mean here. HO is 100% grade A partisan political animal, and so he boils this all down to whatever political spin works best for him. Putin is not taking advantage of a "feckless administration". He is executing on a policy to resolve bitterness building for decades over the collapse of the Soviet Union, which has become more urgent for him because of the Ukrainian pro-western administration. A fully Western oriented, well adjusted Ukranian democracy on his border, is a disaster for his goal of holding power, fleecing anything he can, and enriching himself. This isn't new, it is a continuation of actions at least since the annexation of Crimea and initial support for Donbas separatists, and maybe should be traced back to similar moves he took before that in Georgia. Its roots are in his interpretation of the importance of Ukraine to the history and cultural cohesion of the Russian people. Which makes it more urgent that his own people, really subjects at this point, don't have that contrast in such a culturally related society.

But, if this had started during the Trump years, there would be many on the left who would boil it down to simplistic, US-centric political causes, laying it all at Trump's feet because he is a Putin stooge. Many would claim, with or without any evidence, that Trump must be covertly assisting Putin. And you would never talk these people out of that viewpoint.

That too would be a total oversimplification, making the US the center of it. So, I think the answer to your question is that hyper-partisans are going to do what they do, and they are best ignored.

Tucker by the way is a different case. He is the cheerleader in chief for the Orban regime in the US. He is either a committed autocratic nationalist, or he just plays one on TV because of the money in it for him. Either way, I do agree that Putin has a strong US ally in Tucker Carlson.

(In response to this post by CMUHoo)

Posted: 02/22/2022 at 11:10AM



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  Now to answer your question... -- CMUHoo 02/22/2022 11:09AM
  First paragraph is just plain facts ** -- wahoo138 02/22/2022 11:56AM
  Ahh...but they are not the correct alternate facts. ** -- HoosWillWin 02/22/2022 11:59AM
  How exactly do you propose to “smack him down”? -- SixerHoo 02/22/2022 11:26AM
  Candace Owens -- CMUHoo 02/22/2022 10:56AM
  And the grand finale: Fox News -- CMUHoo 02/22/2022 10:52AM
  Some links follow -- CMUHoo 02/22/2022 10:48AM
  Tucker did EXACTLY that -- Cheered him on. ** -- HoodatB 02/22/2022 11:35AM
  HO's does very directly. Not surprising. ** -- hoolstoptheheels 02/22/2022 11:11AM
  Didn’t some dude say something like… -- Los Angeles Hoo 02/22/2022 10:26AM
  Huh? ** -- HoodatB 02/22/2022 11:09AM
  Is that you Joe McCarthy? ** -- Seattle .Hoo 02/22/2022 10:35AM
  Election integrity 😂😂😂 ** -- SixerHoo 02/22/2022 10:33AM
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  Putin's Lebensraum ** -- Tuckahokie 02/22/2022 10:40AM
  I hardly ever bring her up ** -- HokieDan95 02/22/2022 10:05AM
  LMAO. And here we are. ** -- HoodatB 02/22/2022 11:10AM
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  That wasn't me and so what if I had? ** -- HokieDan95 02/22/2022 11:30AM
  Sorry I get you and JM mixed up. ** -- HoodatB 02/22/2022 11:37AM
  Lazerus heard she was gay.Seemed rather fixated. ** -- Wahoo Gus 02/22/2022 10:39AM
  Are you more pro Russia or pro Kamala? ** -- HoodatB 02/22/2022 09:56AM
  The US is a mess and going downhill ** -- 79 Wahoo 02/22/2022 09:37AM
  Yup- people here are just losing their minds -- Capital City Hoo 02/22/2022 09:10AM
  They started changing last night (at least in the snippet -- HoosWillWin 02/22/2022 12:08PM
  Answer inside… -- SixerHoo 02/22/2022 10:44AM
  It is just the party line. -- Chuck Taylor 02/22/2022 09:49AM
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