It's really interesting, and I don't think conventional wisdom

applies. Sanders and Warren are correct imo Trump is a symptom of something deeper, though I don't like a lot of their proposed solutions or approach personally.

There's this pocket of key voters in key states who would potentially go for Sanders as a first choice and Trump second, or vice versa. I think "most likely to beat Trump" is obviously Biden's greatest asset in the primary ("only 23 percent of Democrats said he had the 'best policy ideas' in a recent poll by Quinnipiac University. But 56 percent of Democrats said he had the best chance of defeating Mr. Trump."), but in the general there are a lot of party switching voters who won't be particularly moved by an "anyone but Trump" message alone. That "up for grabs" contingent is not turned off by him enough (or maybe even like him on immigration, being a wrecking ball, etc) to be motivated that way.

At the same time, the margin was so narrow for Trump last time that maybe Biden, if he got there, wins just by virtue of not being Hillary, actually campaigning in WI-MI-PA, and/or getting a better turnout from voters that sat out last time. But Trump does have incumbency that he didn't before and a good economy.

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Posted: 05/04/2019 at 4:36PM

Biden and the appeal of/to bi-partisanship -- hoodeyo 05/04/2019 1:09PM

Then Biden should take the bull by the horns -- Wahoo Ron 05/04/2019 4:45PM

It's obviously health care- pre-existing conditions, prescription drug -- hoodeyo 05/04/2019 6:18PM

I’d enthusiastically support Biden ... but the Dem party left him in the -- CharlestonSC 05/04/2019 4:05PM

Totally explains why he’s in first by a comfortable margin just by virtue -- WahooRQ 05/05/2019 09:23AM

You just nailed the reason he trails all the far leftists in the -- Shenhoo 05/04/2019 7:43PM

Biden trashed Anit Hill, said you cant go into a 7-11 w/o having to listen -- Wahoo Ron 05/05/2019 09:06AM

Your problem is that as last as yesterday Clown spent his morning -- Shenhoo 05/05/2019 12:21PM

Prediction: Joe will get the nomination and you -- southdenverhoo 05/04/2019 7:43PM

Odd considering he’s infinitely more palatable than Clinton whom I voted -- CharlestonSC 05/04/2019 9:54PM

Really? I hadn't heard that the Dem nomination was decided! ** -- Seattle .Hoo 05/04/2019 5:34PM

Well clearly it's not over ... but I see him starting strong and getting -- CharlestonSC 05/04/2019 5:55PM

Pull a Jeb, huh? ** -- Seattle .Hoo 05/04/2019 6:53PM

I don't think that's necessarily true, he's the frontrunner at least now -- hoodeyo 05/04/2019 4:46PM

Biden came from a very divisive Administration ** -- MasterRusty 05/04/2019 3:50PM

I hope there is a healthy debate about this. ** -- DanTheFan 05/04/2019 3:10PM

It's really interesting, and I don't think conventional wisdom -- hoodeyo 05/04/2019 4:36PM

It's really interesting, and I don't think conventional wisdom

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