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Florida Senate votes to require fees paid before restoring voting rights -- WahooMatt05 05/03/2019 11:44AM You don't get your UVA diploma until you pay your parking tickets. ** -- MasterRusty 05/04/2019 07:22AM I dare say that the Floridians who overwhelmingly voted in favor of the -- Hoo TV 05/03/2019 11:04PM Dunno - I can see this both ways. I 100% believe that if you've paid your -- CharlestonSC 05/03/2019 7:21PM I should say my take on court costs for civil cases is different ... in -- CharlestonSC 05/03/2019 7:22PM I thought the same upon hearing this. Thwarting the will of the people ** -- Maupin233 05/03/2019 4:11PM Well it’s a little more detailed than paying court cost, but you already -- Cold Hoober Hoo 05/03/2019 12:36PM The intent is to prevent them from voting at all, but you already knew that -- Seattle .Hoo 05/03/2019 12:46PM No the intent was to punish them for a crime. Restitutions are just -- Cold Hoober Hoo 05/03/2019 12:55PM Sometimes they are, sometimes they aren't. What this law does is subvert -- Seattle .Hoo 05/03/2019 12:58PM Because I have no issue with a person gaining their rights back -- Cold Hoober Hoo 05/03/2019 1:08PM Let's go back to WahooMatt's point then. How is the person supposed to work -- Seattle .Hoo 05/03/2019 1:18PM They should have thought about that before the crime. ** -- Hokieesith 05/03/2019 1:21PM Yeah, I think Jesus said that. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 05/03/2019 1:25PM Lol. Says the Atheist. ** -- hoothat 05/03/2019 1:34PM My point exactly. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 05/03/2019 4:19PM Is it not true? ** -- hoothat 05/03/2019 4:25PM The GOP likes to draw Jesus like a weapon to support their oppressive -- Seattle .Hoo 05/03/2019 4:46PM Not really, but if an Athiest wants to attempt to shame others -- hoothat 05/03/2019 5:44PM I don’t care what Jesus would say and I know you don’t. ** -- Hokieesith 05/03/2019 1:33PM They only vote for criminals. ** -- hooshouse 05/03/2019 1:26PM Who is they? -- hoothat 05/03/2019 1:30PM It's kind of hard to earn a living while in jail -- WahooMatt05 05/03/2019 12:46PM Bring back Jim Crow laws, the root of felon disenfranchisement -- Hoo TV 05/03/2019 1:05PM You are completely wrong Matt. Those fees and restitutions -- Cold Hoober Hoo 05/03/2019 12:53PM Let's go to the ballot initiative -- WahooMatt05 05/03/2019 1:23PM “All terms of the sentence”. It’s written right there Matt. -- Cold Hoober Hoo 05/03/2019 1:51PM Not, Florida, but Alabama clearly shows the difference -- WahooMatt05 05/03/2019 2:37PM And Florida isn't different. Here's the Florida Criminal Punishment Code -- WahooMatt05 05/03/2019 2:23PM Let's look at the United States Sentencing Commission glossary -- WahooMatt05 05/03/2019 2:05PM I’m sure the courts will decide. What does your research say about -- Cold Hoober Hoo 05/03/2019 2:43PM Good question -- WahooMatt05 05/03/2019 2:56PM Actually they are part of the sentence. They're talking about court costs -- Hoodafan 05/03/2019 3:06PM They are part of the punishment, not the sentence -- WahooMatt05 05/03/2019 3:11PM No. Your sentence can be for X yrs and Y$ fine. Plus, regardless of the -- Hoodafan 05/03/2019 3:22PM Damn -- WahooMatt05 05/03/2019 3:33PM Nor am I, and that was never my point to parse words or make distinctions. -- Hoodafan 05/03/2019 3:38PM There's a good reason why Bernie thinks felons in prisopn should vote -- WahooMatt05 05/03/2019 3:43PM And boy do we GOPers hope he and all Dems push for that to go nation wide. ** -- Hoodafan 05/03/2019 4:09PM The sentence and the fine are two different things -- WahooMatt05 05/03/2019 3:26PM You mean a part, right? ** -- hoothat 05/03/2019 1:58PM Yes, corrected ** -- Cold Hoober Hoo 05/03/2019 2:01PM Just making sure. -- hoothat 05/03/2019 2:03PM "Debt to society" = 100% figurative, not literal! Fees = unconstitutional! ** -- ResistHoo 05/03/2019 1:07PM Imprisoning or executing a person doesn't do justice to the victim either -- Seattle .Hoo 05/03/2019 12:55PM Isn’t that for the victim to decide? -- Cold Hoober Hoo 05/03/2019 1:01PM No it isn't for the victim to decide. Not at all. Let's make it a -- Seattle .Hoo 05/03/2019 1:14PM What’s the difference in having voting rights restored after getting -- Cold Hoober Hoo 05/03/2019 1:43PM Restitution is also often a condition and exchange for reduced time served. -- Hoodafan 05/03/2019 1:07PM Exactly - time in jail fully paid debt to society. Now they can vote D!!! ** -- ResistHoo 05/03/2019 12:52PM Yes, but if your argument is that they should get their rights back because -- Hoodafan 05/03/2019 12:51PM Bernie Madoff lives in Florida? I didn't know that! -- Seattle .Hoo 05/03/2019 12:54PM I feared Nevin Shapiro would fly over too many heads to make the point. :-) ** -- Hoodafan 05/03/2019 12:56PM Good news and more good work in FL ** -- TomKazanski 05/03/2019 12:01PM The GOP proving again that cheating works! ** -- Seattle .Hoo 05/03/2019 12:15PM Cheating? ** -- TomKazanski 05/03/2019 12:29PM Like their Federal R counterparts, Constitution is for losers ** -- WarmHoo 05/03/2019 12:00PM Poll tax ** -- Hooddihsm 05/03/2019 11:48AM