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hoolstoptheheels

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The new party line of the Trump team, that collusion isn't a crime,


Isn't new, it's just their latest focus (and I do wish they'd stop with their ever shifting lines of defense if they have nothing to hide). But since the start of the Trump admin, you've heard Trump defenders claim there is no legal definition of collusion.

So IMO, the answer to your question is that you need evidence of a conspiracy. A quid pro quo. "If you do this for me Vlad, I'll do this for you". If that's shown, then I'd have to drop my objections to impeachment on the basis of collusion/conspiracy. Of course, Trump keeps adding to his odds of getting nailed for obstruction, with each tweet, almost whenever he opens his mouth on this subject.

Impeachment is political, not legal, so if there is a massive enough blue wave in Nov, maybe the dictionary definition of collusion would be enough. But somewhere I saw you ask when the Trump nightmare will be over. I think the answer is "when we vote him out", not "when we impeach him". My fear is that impeaching him will mark the beginning of the real national nightmare.

(In response to this post by wahoo138)

Posted: 08/05/2018 at 12:32PM



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  *** -- WaxHoo 08/05/2018 11:44AM
  Shame on you! You shouldn't call him "Dumb Don". -- HowieT3 08/05/2018 10:44AM
  Wasn't even there when Ivanka got knocked. ** -- Shenhoo 08/05/2018 10:41AM
  No Collussion! Just attempted Collussion! -- 757 08/05/2018 12:17PM
  Indictments for what? This thread is hilarious. ** -- Hokieesith 08/05/2018 12:06PM
  No it isn’t and you can’t prove such a thing. ** -- Hokieesith 08/05/2018 1:55PM
  Please provide your definition then -- wahoo138 08/05/2018 12:20PM
  Our definitions are the same. -- Hokieesith 08/05/2018 12:29PM
  Oh, well that settles it ** -- wahoo138 08/05/2018 12:34PM
  Lol. Tried to keep it secret? From who? ** -- Hokieesith 08/05/2018 1:53PM
  From everybody they lied to about it? ** -- VAGentleman05 08/05/2018 2:33PM
  And? ** -- Hokieesith 08/05/2018 2:43PM
  Uh, ... everyone but the Trump campaign ** -- WaxHoo 08/05/2018 1:58PM
  Glad you finally agree on conspiracy. Lol. ** -- THECZAR 08/05/2018 1:41PM
  Me? Nope? ** -- Hokieesith 08/05/2018 5:03PM
  Really? Can you show me? Cause I don’t agree. -- Hokieesith 08/05/2018 1:51PM
  Go do your own research, Hokie ** -- WaxHoo 08/05/2018 1:52PM
  Simple google search says you're wrong. ** -- hooyorkcity 08/05/2018 1:59PM
  Get off of Fox & go read the statutes -- WaxHoo 08/05/2018 1:57PM
  SDH, did you mean this post for me? ** -- WaxHoo 08/05/2018 4:56PM
  Nope my bad. It’s fot smith, below. ** -- southdenverhoo 08/05/2018 6:43PM
  I’m bizarre? Lol. ** -- Hokieesith 08/05/2018 2:10PM
  Err ,. ... Yup ** -- WaxHoo 08/05/2018 3:09PM
  Lol ** -- wahoo138 08/05/2018 12:56PM
  I was told no one met with Russians. -- hooshouse 08/05/2018 11:14AM
  The argument will be they didn’t know it was -- KCHoo 08/05/2018 11:15AM
  Well said. ** -- Shenhoo 08/05/2018 12:22PM
  Are you saying Trump cheated? ** -- Hokieesith 08/05/2018 1:03PM
  "Russia, if you're listening....." ** -- VAGentleman05 08/05/2018 2:38PM
  He was just kidding ;) ** -- Hoo TV 08/05/2018 4:35PM
  Paging TomKazanski & his ilk ... ** -- WaxHoo 08/05/2018 11:11AM

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