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I think this guy understands the slippery slope of the 2A. Leading places

That those who favor the current interpretation may not like.

So we agree that the 2A does not apply to all arms. How much of a leap from there is it to say that a “firearm” in 1791 was a musket that could fire a ball a minute (assuming a skilled handler who knew how to reload a new ball and powder that quickly), so no way would it allow any bozo to own an AR-15 in 2021? Or even just a Glock? Aren’t they kinda weapons of mass destruction by the standards of the 1790s?

If there are restrictions to what constitutes “arms” in the 2A, who’s to say where they should begin and end?

(In response to this post by JMHoo)

Posted: 12/02/2021 at 1:46PM

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